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All Forum Posts by: Brad Gibson

Brad Gibson has started 10 posts and replied 44 times.

Post: Analyzing an MTR market

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Victor Steffen:

Hi Assaf,

For MTRs we look for areas where any 3 of the following 6 industries are within 10 minutes of each other: General Hospital System, International Airport, Military Base, Major University (20k+ students), Metropolitan Tourism, Fortune 500 Companies. 

All of these are a draw for mid-term tenants and will help ensure occupancy. Post your MTR on airbnb and limit it to 30+ day stays, furnished finder, or even local facebook groups. We have success with all platforms.

A fully furnished MTR should be trading 25%+ above LTR rates- if you're not seeing that in your market there's likely not enough MTR demand to justify the model.

When you purchase a MTR be sure it will at least cover your PITI if you need to convert it to a long term rental. If you invest where there are overlapping MTR tenant attractions then you won't have issues with occupancy. Just keep the space clean and don't over-extend. Most MTR tenants are single or at most a couple. I personally think 3 bedroom houses are overkill. Our most successful MTRs are a mix of 1 and 2 bedroom fully furnished quadplexes.

Good luck! 




 Hi Victor, Thanks for you feedback. What's your take on larger homes and renting by the room? I am also looking in AZ and it appears folks are paying 1000-1500 per room(according to FurnishFinder).

Post: Residential Assisted Living - 36 beds and counting

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15

What a great story, thanks for sharing. Our journey is almost identical! small multi, flipping, to larger multi. The competition on these properties is unreal! I just recently stumbled upon RAL and Im beginning to think it could  be a good fit. Real estate investing, business, great cashflow, ability to help others all wrapped into one. You are the 3rd or 4th person that mentioned RALAcademy was a great value, I think ill take the plunge. Thanks again. 

Post: So You Want to Start an RAL Care Home...?

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15

I recently moved to Phoenix and I think this may be a great industry for my wife and I. Thanks for the info!

Post: Rent by the room in Phoenix.

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Preston Herd:

Hey Brad, Im also an investor and I'm  new here as well from Metro Atlanta area. And this is something I'm thinking of doing too. I see a lot of people here say look in areas near college campuses but I personally, that wouldn't be my target. I would target metro areas near public transportation. Ive fell on hard times in the past and had to resort to this lifestyle of living and it was always a line around the corner waiting for any vacancies. I merely this this style of living is for adults who are looking to get back on their feet, which are coming in by the dozens unlike the college kids who are home for the summer. Im looking to use this model for weekly rentals.

Preston, thats an interesting strategy. I could certainly see why that would be beneficial for someone needing something temporary. With weekly rentals seems you would need to be hands on. Would you live in the home? How would you go about vetting tenants for such a short period of time? 

Post: Rent by the room in Phoenix.

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Connor Cushman:

I have family, friends, and clients doing this in many states throughout the country and a common theme is that this is difficult to actually regulate and enforce. I think most often this becomes an issue with HOAs so that would be the big thing to watch out for

I assumed I would need to avoid HOAs altogether. Good to know its difficult to regulate and enforce. What kind of rents are they seeing per bed? Im sure it varies but I've been hearing 1000-1500 in phoenix. 

Post: Rent by the room in Phoenix.

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Brenden Mitchum:

Hey @Brad Gibson, renting by the room can be a terrific strategy, if done right. It can also be a nightmare if done wrong. The general thought is that your best off near a university. However, you can just as easily do this anywhere near public transport. There are plenty of working-class individuals who would love to find something more affordable, such as a room to rent. As long as you properly screen them, this can work well for both you and the tenants. Plus, then your repairs and maintenance should be lower vs. a home filled with college students. 

You're off to the right start checking occupancy laws across the metro. However, many municipalities have occupancy laws that they do not enforce. So, while they'll tell you the law is exists, they won't enforce unless they get serious complaints. Run your rental with the proper screening and this shouldn't be an issue. A good way to check which municipalities have a hard vs. soft rule is to google "*city/county* occupancy laws." If it's all over the papers, chances are it's enforced more strictly than if you can't find anything. Make sure you also know the laws regarding number of cars parked out front. This is where it helps to be close to public trans. so that you can restrict # of tenants w/cars.

Hey @Preston Herd, check out Padsplit, if you're interested in renting by the room here in Atlanta. They help manage the tenants so it's much less hands on than if you go it alone. They have all the systems in place and can even connect you with a PM for the stuff they don't handle, allowing for a near passive investment. Feel free to reach out anytime if you want to learn more!

 Thanks Brenden! I did reach out to Mesa, AZ code enforcement and the person that answered the call was quick to say "we dont enforce that" and was ready to hop off the call that instant. I like your tips on how to research if they are actually enforced. Ill give that a shot. 

Ive been digging more on the pros and cons involved in the strategy. Ive been asking myself..is the extra cashflow worth the extra headache involved. Haven't come to a conclusion yet. I love Multi-family investing but prices are a bit high at the moment. 

Post: Rent by the room in Phoenix.

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15

Hi Bob, that was my thought to focus on College Areas. Great point about the HOAs. 

Im curious if its the same occupancy across the board or differs from city to city. Having an occupancy of 3 compared to 5 or 6 could make a huge difference in returns. Ill spend some time on the phone and circle back to this post. 

Post: Rent by the room in Phoenix.

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15

Hello! I am a investor from ohio that recently relocated to Phoenix(surprise area) and am curious about renting by the room. With soaring rents I could see why renting by the room might be appealing. Called around some today about how many unrelated occupants can live in one SFH. Haven't heard back yet. Curious what experience my fellow BiggerPockets investors have had in the area?

Post: Max occupanncy laws for Arizona (Chandler)

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15

A little late to this post but are any of you still renting by the room in the phoenix area? Curious how those types of properties are performing with super high rents across the valley. I could see why renting by the bedroom with lower rent might be appealing. 

Post: advice to refinance or not to refinance

Brad GibsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Surprise, AZ
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 15

The other property you are looking to purchase a buy and hold or flip? My experience with HELOC's is they have a higher interest rate but convenient being able to take what you need with little to no notice and pay it back whenever. So in my opinion they are more suitable to Flips. For a buy and hold I would go with the Cash Out Refi because you will likely get a much lower interest rate. If you are focusing on the Buy and Hold also check out Brandon Turners "BRRR Strategy"