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All Forum Posts by: Georgeos Partheniou

Georgeos Partheniou has started 1 posts and replied 11 times.

Quote from @Brian Kloft:
Quote from @Georgeos Partheniou:

Cash out on an Llc if the property is held inside it is tax free, as soon as u remove it to a personal name or bank account it will be become taxable. 

 I am now confused. You are the one that started this whole post asking "Can I personally take that extra finance money tax free into my own name or personal bank account to do with what I please, or does the refinance money have to stay in that Llc company and I cant use it personally." and now you are telling others that are answering the question that they are wrong and that you know the answer. 

FYI @Jay Hurst is correct. Moving money from your LLC to your personal name is not a taxable event. When you file the taxes they look at what income the property/LLC made. Now if a corporation (not LLC, I am talking about Inc.) pays money out to individuals that is income to the individual thus a taxable event. If your LLC is just you or you and your spouse then most likely it is considered a pass thru entity and thus the IRS basically ignores the LLC and it is just considered all you.

Ok that explains it much clearer. How many LLCs can anyone person have, running at the same time? Thanks 

Cash out on an Llc if the property is held inside it is tax free, as soon as u remove it to a personal name or bank account it will be become taxable. 

Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Georgeos Partheniou:

Yes I understand that. I’m talking about solely about the refinance funds 

 You do not pay taxes on proceeds from a refi. That is not income or a taxable event, but just return of capital. You pay taxes when sell the property.  

Jay, an LLC is separate from personal 
Quote from @Tracy Ross:

It's very easy to open a business account with your bank in the name of your LLC. Then that money would be available to the LLC to use for other (work related) projects.

Yes work related and not used for personal use 

Yes I understand that. I’m talking about solely about the refinance funds 

Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Georgeos Partheniou:
Quote from @Jay Hurst: yes but surely as soon as he takes the money from the LLC he pays tax in his own name? 
Quote from @Georgeos Partheniou:
Quote from @Gail W.:

Good question... I'd like to know too. Thing is, we can't get ANYONE to loan us ANYTHING this past year! 

We've stalled at 3 properties. They are all in a separate LLC (although any creditors looking can see 2 of them in our personal name). EVERYONE has said we aren't making enough money. We net an additional $1000/mo on each rental. We can't even get an auto loan! All lenders have said we have excellent credit/high FICO, but our DTR is way off. They recommend we get a regular 9-5 job so we have a W-2!! SO frustrating!

We had to refi one of the properties that the owner was carrying for a short time and wound up using an investment lender at a crazy rate that would do it. This is the one that when a lender does a credit check on us, they don't see it in our name. Not sure how they are seeing the other 2, because they are also in separate LLCs. Weird. 

I don't know HOW these other folks on BP are finagling these loans to get more properties or cash to repair. It sure isn't working for US! 

@Gail W. agreed, I met a developer recently, he says he refinances his properties which are in LLCs, then takes that money for recreational purposes in his own name, to essentially use for vacations etc. I don’t see how he does this? 


You can do what every you want with a single member LLC, just basically means any competent attorney would easily "pierce the corporate veil" of the LLC in case of litigation.



LLC's are pass through entity. You pay the taxes on your personal return.

Yes that’s what I thought. The money stays in the company it’s tax free. As soon as it’s taken out into personal, you pay personal tax on it?  

Quote from @Jay Hurst: yes but surely as soon as he takes the money from the LLC he pays tax in his own name? 
Quote from @Georgeos Partheniou:
Quote from @Gail W.:

Good question... I'd like to know too. Thing is, we can't get ANYONE to loan us ANYTHING this past year! 

We've stalled at 3 properties. They are all in a separate LLC (although any creditors looking can see 2 of them in our personal name). EVERYONE has said we aren't making enough money. We net an additional $1000/mo on each rental. We can't even get an auto loan! All lenders have said we have excellent credit/high FICO, but our DTR is way off. They recommend we get a regular 9-5 job so we have a W-2!! SO frustrating!

We had to refi one of the properties that the owner was carrying for a short time and wound up using an investment lender at a crazy rate that would do it. This is the one that when a lender does a credit check on us, they don't see it in our name. Not sure how they are seeing the other 2, because they are also in separate LLCs. Weird. 

I don't know HOW these other folks on BP are finagling these loans to get more properties or cash to repair. It sure isn't working for US! 

@Gail W. agreed, I met a developer recently, he says he refinances his properties which are in LLCs, then takes that money for recreational purposes in his own name, to essentially use for vacations etc. I don’t see how he does this? 


You can do what every you want with a single member LLC, just basically means any competent attorney would easily "pierce the corporate veil" of the LLC in case of litigation.


Quote from @Gail W.:

Good question... I'd like to know too. Thing is, we can't get ANYONE to loan us ANYTHING this past year! 

We've stalled at 3 properties. They are all in a separate LLC (although any creditors looking can see 2 of them in our personal name). EVERYONE has said we aren't making enough money. We net an additional $1000/mo on each rental. We can't even get an auto loan! All lenders have said we have excellent credit/high FICO, but our DTR is way off. They recommend we get a regular 9-5 job so we have a W-2!! SO frustrating!

We had to refi one of the properties that the owner was carrying for a short time and wound up using an investment lender at a crazy rate that would do it. This is the one that when a lender does a credit check on us, they don't see it in our name. Not sure how they are seeing the other 2, because they are also in separate LLCs. Weird. 

I don't know HOW these other folks on BP are finagling these loans to get more properties or cash to repair. It sure isn't working for US! 

@Gail W. agreed, I met a developer recently, he says he refinances his properties which are in LLCs, then takes that money for recreational purposes in his own name, to essentially use for vacations etc. I don’t see how he does this? 

Thanks for your reply! I’m New to this forum and have been getting conflicting advise on this matter.
This is a question on refinancing-
If I own a property in a Llc company with lots of equity, I refinance, that money is classed as tax free as it’s a loan/debt? Can I personally take that extra finance money tax free into my own name or personal bank account to do with what I please, or does the refinance money have to stay in that Llc company and I cant use it personally.
Many thanks

Quote from @Basit Siddiqi:

You may want to research the term ' Debt Financed Distribution' Which does have a tax implication for the investors receiving a distribution.

So essentially the loan is tax free if kept inside the Llc but not if taken into personal name?