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All Forum Posts by: Geoff Anfuso

Geoff Anfuso has started 1 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Planning to start investing in Detroit - any one use Upside investments?

Geoff Anfuso
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  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Hey @Sunny Karen,

I think a lot of my experience would echo the other positive reviews of the Upside operation. I'll do you one better than the other reviews and offer to have a call with you to walk you through what I've learned.

My situation - California-based investor looking for a team to help me invest in real estate. Knew I would have to go out of market given entry point and availability of opportunities that actually cash flow (that is, not just on the excel spreadsheet). I spent approximately three months researching various markets before meeting @Travis Biziorek through BP. 

My investments - I have purchased two properties through Upside in two different Detroit neighborhoods. 

First property has been renovated, leased, and managed in line with all timelines and expectations. I chose to refinance this property and closed a 75% LTV mortgage on an appraisal of $100k vs. $86k invested. This refinance was completed three months after purchasing the property.

Second property took a little longer to renovate due to the holidays and contractor scheduling issues. Could it have been done faster? Maybe, but I have a lot of trust in the team given the experience from my first property. We're interviewing tenants now, and are pushing rents above the modeled amount. I'm excited about this one given the particular neighborhood I'm in.

Upside team - I have worked with various members of the team. The day-to-day folks are courteous and responsive. They respond quickly to emails/calls and follow up on open items. Software used for maintaining property financials is intuitive and distributions are made timely on a monthly basis. Guides on how to deal with some of the nuanced regulatory/filing requirements specific to Detroit are provided. If you worked with property management companies before, you know that this type of service is not as common as it should be.

@Travis Biziorek was great in educating me on investing in Detroit. This wasn't done through pitching me Upside opportunities, but instead through sharing his Detroit investing experiences and goals. As mentioned by another contributor, you really should read everything posted on Travis' blog. I consider Travis a mentor and you can review his posts on this forum to see how he helps others. I should mention, Travis had great referrals for lenders, insurance agents, etc. that are hard to come by for first time out of state investors.

Nader is the owner of Upside and is one patient individual! I consider myself a very analytical individual and likely asked way too many questions before making my first investment. Nader walked me through all of my concerns. Despite being at the top of the organization, Nader is very involved in the day-to-day and will hop in to solve issues. He's based in Detroit and I feel he does a good job pushing third vendors to get his clients the best deals and turnaround time. 

Feels like you might have enough responses in this chain to feel like you should continue exploring an investing relationship with Upside. I will tell you, I spent a lot of time speaking with different agents/property management companies/gurus once I settled on Detroit as my market. I'd warn you there are some less than savory/less than qualified folks out there. I still have some of them hitting my inbox with garbage opportunities that I'm thankful I avoided. Once you're comfortable investing in Class C as a product, I think you'll feel comfortable with the team.

Anyhow, hope this was helpful in your search and please feel free to reach out to me directly.

Post: Who is your favorite insurance carrier?

Geoff Anfuso
Pro Member
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

I recently purchased two investment properties and have good experience with a couple teams. One broker with an eye on lower cost and a State Farm office (higher quality insurer). DM me if you're interested in hearing about what I've learned.

Post: Potential markets that would be good for medium term appreciation

Geoff Anfuso
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  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Eric Fernwood:

Hello @Gaurav Mehta,

The goal of real estate investing is to get off and stay off the corporate treadmill. You can only achieve this goal if you have a dependable passive income. A dependable passive income must meet three criteria.

  • Reliable - Your income continues even in difficult economic times.
  • Inflation-Compensating - Rental income increases faster than inflation, compensating for rising prices.
  • Persistent - Your income will last; you and your spouse won't outlive it.

To achieve all three criteria, you need to get three things right.

  • Location - The location defines all long-term income characteristics.
  • Tenant Pool - Defines income reliability and vacancy cost.
  • Property- Defines return and maintenance costs.

In this post, I will only talk about choosing the location.

Choosing a location for investment should not involve personal opinions, luck, or feelings. It should be based on metrics. The key is eliminating locations that do not meet the three established criteria for reliable income. The remaining locations are then worthy of further examination. The process and necessary information sources are listed below.

  1. Metro Population >1M - There are thousands of locations to consider; too many to evaluate. So, start with metro areas with a population >1M. Small towns may rely too much on a single business or market segment. Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  2. Both state and metro populations are increasing - Do not consider investing if the state or metro populations are static or decreasing. Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  3. Low crime - Cities with high crime levels and long-term profitability are incompatible. People and businesses avoid areas with high crime. The result is a lack of job opportunities and investment. Never invest in any city on Neighborhood Scouts' list of the 100 most dangerous US cities - https://www.neighborhoodscout....
  4. Low operating costs - High operating costs can turn what appears to be a profitable property into a money pit. The two most apparent overhead costs are property taxes and insurance. Look for stats with low taxes and insurance. Insurance - ValuePenguin (https://www.valuepenguin.com/a...), Metro Property Taxes - LendingTree (https://www.lendingtree.com/ho...).
  5. Limited urban sprawl - Many cities in the US, including Phoenix, Memphis, and Indianapolis, have large open areas surrounding them, enabling unlimited expansion through urban sprawl. This leads to a slow or stagnant increase in property prices and rents in established areas as people move further out and rent or buy newer homes.
  6. Natural disaster risk - Natural disasters such as tornadoes, hurricanes, and earthquakes destroy communities. While insurance might rebuild your property, the bigger issue is the loss of jobs, local businesses, and essential amenities. Until the community is rebuilt, you will have an empty property, but mortgage payments, taxes, insurance, and other expenses will continue, with no income to offset these costs. The cost of homeowners insurance is the best indicator of the likelihood of a natural disaster in an area. Insurance - ValuePenguin (https://www.valuepenguin.com/a...)
  7. Metro rent and price growth rate - To have the additional dollars you need to pay for inflated prices, rents must rise faster than inflation. Therefore, a critical location selection metric is that rents and prices are rising faster than inflation. If historical rental data is unavailable, you can use the rate of appreciation in the area as a proxy, as rents tend to follow prices. However, COVID-19 distorted markets, so only consider data from 2013 to 2020. Zillow research data - https://www.zillow.com/researc...
  8. Landlord/tenant rules and regulations - Some locations have laws that limit how much you can raise rents, making it nearly impossible to keep pace with inflation. Similar regulations can also make it difficult to choose reliable tenants and evict non-performing ones. Don't invest in places with these restrictions. To find out if a place has these laws, talk to a local investment team.

The metro areas that remain are the ones to investigate further.

I went through this process, and here is how Las Vegas stacked up.

Population: >2.2M

✅ Both state and metro populations are increasing.

✅ Low crime

✅ Low operating cost - I was initially drawn to cities in Nevada, Florida, and Texas. I made an overhead cost comparison based on state averages, as shown in the table below.

To show the impact of taxes and insurance, I compared costs on a $400,000 property in the three states. (Remember that these are state averages, and individual cities may impose additional taxes.)

So, due to higher property tax and insurance, you need a significantly higher cash flow in Texas and Florida to have the same net cash flow in Nevada.

Limited Urban sprawl - Las Vegas is a small island of privately-owned land surrounded by an ocean of federal land. See the 2020 aerial video below. As you can see, there is little undeveloped land.

Soon, the only option for expansion will be redevelopment, which is already underway in some areas. The limited availability of land for expansion and the increasing demand for housing in Las Vegas almost guarantee that property prices and rents will continue to rise.

✅ Natural disaster risk - Nevada has the 10th lowest homeowner insurance cost in the nation.

✅ Metro rent and price growth rate - Between 2013 and 2020, appreciation averaged 14%/Yr, and rents increased by >8%/Yr.

✅ Landlord/tenant rules and regulations - Nevada and Las Vegas are pro-owner. The state is also pro-business.

So, based on my evaluation of all potential cities, I chose Las Vegas.

Gaurav, when you evaluate investment locations, you may have a different result. If so, I would appreciate hearing what city(ies) you selected.

Eric, really appreciate the analytical reply. That's how I like to review opportunities, with facts. But with all those positives, where are you seeing CF in LV? Price points at this time seem well above what rents would imply, let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks!

Post: Investing in Oklahoma City, OK

Geoff Anfuso
Pro Member
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  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Hi guys, reviving this thread. Looking for 2-4 units or SFRs for rent in OKC and Wichita. Any specific neighborhoods I should be focusing on in OKC for stable cash flow? Thanks in advance.

Post: Denver County Tax Liens

Geoff Anfuso
Pro Member
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1

Hi guys,

I was doing some research on last year's tax lien sales for Denver County in CO. I noticed that last year's auctions showed a premium averaging 10% for each lien sold, regardless of size. What's odd, is that the premium is not repaid if the lien is redeemed. This would put the buyer out of the money should a lien redeem in the first year based on the 10% annual interest rate. I don't understand how that makes any sense for an investor. Please tell me what I've missed.

Here are the rules for the auction. The auctions are conducted online through Real Auctions, I confirmed with them that I am reading the data properly and that premiums were paid. Thanks!