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All Forum Posts by: Gary Love

Gary Love has started 5 posts and replied 16 times.

We have a duplex that cash flows about $1600 in the Columbus, OH area. We have 133k Heloc available and 50k cash.  For the more experienced investors what would you do if you were in our situation? Looking for more long term hold but open to suggestions.  Just want to make this money make a difference for our future and retirement in about 15 years or so. We appreciate any and all advice. Thank you. Have a great weekend!!!

So far this is what I've stole, dug up, and added to. Anyone care to add to it or critique it? This is for us buying a SFH to live in for a year and then rent out. Sorry if its so long. My OCD was kicking in :) Thank you all for the help. Maybe this will be helpful to another newbie :)

Tools to have – Tape Measure, flashlight, electrical outlet tester.

Things to look for during initial visit

-Look under all sinks for leaks.

- Look in every corner (ceilings and floors) for any sign of water damage or cracking

- Pull out floor vents if you want to see what kind of floors are under the carpets.

- Look in the crawl space and attic if you can (always have a pocket flashlight on you)

- Roof

-Chimney

- Gutters/Soffits/Downs

- Paint/Siding

- Electric Service Drop (older homes with above ground wires)

- Electrical Breaker Box

- Exterior Doors/Jams

- Porch/Deck

- Termite Danger (ground is near wood)

- Land Grading (for water runoff)

- Cement/Asphalt

-Retaining Walls

-Garage (Door and function)

- Landscaping

-Trash Cleanup

- Windows

-Interior Doors

-Strip Wallpaper

-Drywall

-Patch & Paint

- Flooring (carpet, vinyl, hardwood, tile)

- Ceiling Repairs

-Water Damage

-Trash Removal

- Kitchen

- Kitchen Appliances

- Baths

- Water Heater

- Water Service Line

- Water Plumbing

-Waste Plumbing

-Check water pressure

-Electrical

- Joists

- Foundation

Tips

- Check the property at different times of the day
The street may be peaceful and quiet in the morning but in the evening, it may overflow with traffic. Or Mr. Peterson may be peeping through your window during the night. That is why it is important to visit the house at all times of the day.

- Inquire about the presence of neighborhood association
An association in the area means that the community in the neighborhood is closely knit. Find out if there are any newsletters or if the community in the neighborhood meets sometimes. A community indicates that neighbors care for each other and you can have a good time during celebrations.

- Past records
Ask the seller to provide you with past records of home improvement. For example, there are chances that if the air conditioning system was repaired a long time ago, it may break down at any time soon.

- Remodeling
If you think of remodeling the house, do examine the house closely. Perhaps remodeling the house may cost you a high price because the changes may not be as easy as you thought.

- Surroundings
Observe the surroundings of the house you are planning to buy. If you see one or two houses torn down, there are chances of buildings coming up at a nearby location. A huge mall may arise blocking your view or some hospital or school may come up and cause inconvenience.

- Past bills
Check how much the seller is paying in bills. The house may have high heating and cooling bills or water bills because of inefficiency in usage.

- Tax bills
Tell your neighbor to show you past tax bills. The possibilities are that if the property value increases, your tax bills will show a steep rise.

- Confirm the zoning
Confirm with the seller about the zoning in which the house is located and whether the house has any liens or restrictions.

- Go through newspapers
Check the recent newspapers to find out if there are any proposed projects in your area. It is better to find out sooner about upcoming projects than to have surprises later.

- Always get a full inspection report.

- Make sure all structures on the property are legal structures.

- Get an appraisal report if there’s any question on comps.

- If buying a rental, even if the price of the property is next to nothing, make sure your holding costs on the property don’t cause you to have a negative cash flow.

- Never buy a house on the top of a hill or with a steep driveway. Harder to sell.

- Talk to the neighbors about the history of the property to uncover anything that is unknown to the realtor.

Quote from @Eliott Elias:

This depends on what type of investment property you are purchasing. If you are buying a property that is turnkey, you should get an inspection. If you are buying a flip that needs a lot of work, you should get contractors out to bid.


 Thanks Elliott. It's probably going to be somewhere right in the middle of those two but if I find something I can't pass up Ill definitely take your advice.. Thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it very much. 

Quote from @Henry Clark:

Use the lookup function and type in checklist.   Pull all the best concepts together and ask people to review. 

Thank you Henry.  That's a great idea. Ill build my own list to have with me when viewing a property. I don't always have the best memory and don't want to make a costly mistake. Thank you again. 
Quote from @Dustin Allen:

@Gary Love

Look at everything!

I don’t have any fancy pdf for you but here’s a short list:

- Look under all sinks for leaks

- Look in every corner (ceilings and floors) for any sign of water damage or cracking

- Look at the water heater, HVAC, AC, etc…

- Pull out floor vents if you want to see what kind of floors are under the carpets.

- Look in the crawl space and attic if you can (always have a pocket flashlight on you)

The more you can find out on the first visit, the better off you’ll be. I’m always looking for reasons my clients shouldn’t buy the home. If nothin huge stands out, we write the contract and get the inspections done by professionals.


 Those are some great tips Dustin. Those will be of great help. Thank you very much for taking the time. I really appreciate it. 

Does anyone have a list of things that we should be looking at and checking when viewing a possible SFH investment property? We know many of course but thought someone on here with more knowledge/experience may have a great checklist that they'd be willing to share with us when we're looking. Any help would be much appreciated. Hope everyone is having a great weekend!! Thanks in advance. Gary

Just wanted to thank you guys for your input as its all valuable to me. I truly appreciate it and will use it. 

We're looking to buy a house each year and live it, but we prefer more land/space and not the typical small lots and neighbors 20 feet away of regular tract homes. Would we be making a mistake and have a much smaller pool of renters if we have a 1 acre lot maybe 5-10 miles further out of the city? Or is there a lot of renters out there that would like the extra space?  Would it have any affect on resale later? I figure owning more land is never bad in the long run but really curious what you all with more experience think or have seen happen firsthand. Thank you so much in advance as we don't want to make any big mistakes if we can help it. Have a great Sunday!!  

Quote from @Bud Gaffney:

@Gary Love May I ask why you don’t want to tap into your equity? Equity is dead $. Tap in !

I figured no reason to pay a higher rate on using the equity if its the same as paying the PMI. When the right deal comes along I'll definitely compare though. Plus I like having it there if its really truly needed. Maybe its an old way of thinking. I could get a HELOC set up like other have suggested just have if needed as well. Its just what made sense based on the numbers and less risk. I'm always open to learning if I've missed something though.

Quote from @Noah Bacon:

Hi Gary,

I love the idea, and am currently using the same strategy as you to put low down payments on a primary residence then move out to add another long term rental to my portfolio.

I always analyze my deals looking for a long term hold, so if you are comfortable in the short term not cash flowing or breaking even I would say keep acquiring with the long term outlook in mind. If you are going the conventional route, you will eventually payoff the PMI or look to refinance once you have enough equity in the property.

Cashflow is one of the most important factors when starting off, but based on your comfortability with the cushion from your home in Ohio, I would keep looking for ways to scale and gain equity faster with more properties in your portfolio. 


 Hi Noah,  Thanks for reaching and out the advice. We're looking for long term holds for sure. I would flip something if it made sense for some reason of course but that's not our real goal. Its more for retirement and as the stock market is so volatile even though we're in it, we want to be very well diversified and have consistent monthly income no matter what. We're fortunate to be have the Ohio house to help cushion us, you're right. Thanks for the note and best of luck in your goals!! Sounds like you're headed in the right direction. Have a great day.   Gary