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All Forum Posts by: Gabriel Orduna

Gabriel Orduna has started 5 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Revisiting a previous post

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Hello all, I posted previously about a possible deal in the works. My wife’s uncle is selling his house and we would like to keep it in the family. Originally he wanted to sell it for 690,000.  Ultimately he decided that he would sell it to me at 450,000 and then hold a lien on the property for the remaining balance.  Can someone explain the implications of this deal? What would holding the Lien mean? Would it be the same as him carrying the note? Does this seem like a good deal?

Post: Possible deal in the works

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Quote from @William Sing:

Hey @Gabriel Orduna! It sounds like you have a great opportunity with your wife's family's home. Wanting to approach the "key decision maker" with a couple of options is a smart move. Let's discuss a couple of ideas and their pros and cons.

One option you could consider is proposing a rent-to-own agreement. This would allow you to rent the house from them while working towards qualifying for a mortgage. The upside is that you can secure the property and lock in a purchase price upfront. Plus, it gives you time to improve your qualifications for a mortgage, which increases your chances of getting a good deal. However, you'll need to negotiate the terms to make sure they're fair for both parties, including the rental amount and the duration of the agreement.

Another option is assuming the current loan on the house. By taking over the existing loan, you could avoid the need for a new mortgage qualification process. This saves you time and potentially some costs. Plus, it provides a smoother transition as you continue with the current financing terms and payments. Keep in mind that you'll need to carefully assess the loan terms, remaining balance, and interest rate to make sure they align with your financial goals. The monthly payments may also be higher compared to securing a new mortgage, depending on the loan terms and your financial capacity.

Option three would be exploring seller financing depending on how much equity they have. The benefit of seller financing is that it provides more flexibility in terms of qualifying for a loan. Since the arrangement is negotiated directly with your family, they may be more open to accommodating your current financial situation and future plans. Additionally, it can save you from the stringent requirements of a traditional mortgage, such as credit scores and income verification.

Whichever option you choose, it's important to approach the conversation with transparency and the intention of finding a win-win solution. Let the decision-maker know that you want both parties to feel good about the decision. It may also be helpful to consult with a real estate attorney or financial advisor to ensure all legal and financial aspects are properly addressed.

Good luck with your conversation, and I hope you can reach an agreement that works for everyone involved!

Hello,

I recently met with my wife’s uncle and he proposed that we can obtain the loan for the amount we qualify for which would be around 400K and then he would hold a lien against the house for the remaining balance they are asking for. Would this be a good alternative?  What exactly is holding the lien?  Is it considered holding the note?  What should I be considering when deciding whether or not to proceed?

Post: Possible deal in the works

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Quote from @William Sing:

Hey @Gabriel Orduna! It sounds like you have a great opportunity with your wife's family's home. Wanting to approach the "key decision maker" with a couple of options is a smart move. Let's discuss a couple of ideas and their pros and cons.

One option you could consider is proposing a rent-to-own agreement. This would allow you to rent the house from them while working towards qualifying for a mortgage. The upside is that you can secure the property and lock in a purchase price upfront. Plus, it gives you time to improve your qualifications for a mortgage, which increases your chances of getting a good deal. However, you'll need to negotiate the terms to make sure they're fair for both parties, including the rental amount and the duration of the agreement.

Another option is assuming the current loan on the house. By taking over the existing loan, you could avoid the need for a new mortgage qualification process. This saves you time and potentially some costs. Plus, it provides a smoother transition as you continue with the current financing terms and payments. Keep in mind that you'll need to carefully assess the loan terms, remaining balance, and interest rate to make sure they align with your financial goals. The monthly payments may also be higher compared to securing a new mortgage, depending on the loan terms and your financial capacity.

Option three would be exploring seller financing depending on how much equity they have. The benefit of seller financing is that it provides more flexibility in terms of qualifying for a loan. Since the arrangement is negotiated directly with your family, they may be more open to accommodating your current financial situation and future plans. Additionally, it can save you from the stringent requirements of a traditional mortgage, such as credit scores and income verification.

Whichever option you choose, it's important to approach the conversation with transparency and the intention of finding a win-win solution. Let the decision-maker know that you want both parties to feel good about the decision. It may also be helpful to consult with a real estate attorney or financial advisor to ensure all legal and financial aspects are properly addressed.

Good luck with your conversation, and I hope you can reach an agreement that works for everyone involved!

William, 
thank you for your expertise, it is very much appreciated.  Is there any benefit to the seller that I can provide if I assume the loan?  How can I make that offer more balanced so that it doesn’t seem like I am just asking for the world but not offering anything in return?

Post: Possible deal in the works

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Hello everyone, 

I need some advice. I have a situation that I want to take advantage of but I’m not sure how to go about it. My wife’s family owns a home that they would like to sell for 690,000.  I don’t qualify for the loan amount yet but will within the next year or two. They are not in a rush to sell but I am about to speak with the “key decision maker” about how we can come to some sort of agreement where I can eventually buy the house and they would still get a good deal. I thought about asking if I could rent the house from them until I can qualify for the mortgage, sort of a rent to own situation, I also though about assuming the current loan, but I don’t want to have the conversation with him without having a few options to offer him ready. I also do not want to try to take advantage of him either.  I want us both to feel like this was a good decision for both parties. Can anyone provide me with some advice?

Post: Considerations Choosing partners

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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I am currently considering a partnership with someone.  I wonder what to consider when entering into a partnership.  I remember from one of the podcasts that everything should be spelled out in the beginning and I just want to know what is “everything”? Is there a blog or post I can refer to? What if my partner plans on living in the multifamily we purchase? How should we split the cash flow? Any advice would be appreciated.

Post: Mobile/ Manufactured homes

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Gabriel Orduna:

Mobile homes are unique. It's less of a problem in Riverside, but in areas with cold weather they are susceptible to frozen pipes and other problems.

It's a cheap product and easy to buy, but you'll be buying it for cash flow and not appreciation. The value of a mobile home rarely increases. 

Mobile homes also have unique issues to consider like roofs that leak or water heaters designed specifically for mobiles. You definitely don't want to purchase anything prior to 1976 because building codes didn't exist back then. Try to buy something that is less than 20 years old.

I don't know of any, but I'm sure there are books out there about investing in this niche. I read about a college kid in Texas that got a summer job renovating trailers for his uncle. He figured out how to buy for less than $5,000 each, spend less than $5,000 on renovations, then he would owner-finance them to people. He was spending less than $10,000 per mobile and averaging $45,000 by the time they sold. He had a book called "The Mobile Millionaire" or something like that.


Thank you Nathan,  I will have to take a look at that book.  I’m hoping to gain some insight to finally make a decision.

Post: Mobile/ Manufactured homes

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Good for cash flow, not good for appreciation 

Thanks @Elliot Elias, I’m wondering if that will put me in a bad position exit strategy wise.

Post: Mobile/ Manufactured homes

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Hello,

I’m still trying to find/decide on my niche.  I’m wondering if anyone knows whether a mobile/manufactured home is a good investment for a rental property.  Any insight or advice would be greatly appreciated.  I’m teetering on analysis paralysis and I am worried I’m going to just dive into a bad deal.  I get so caught up in excitement over making my first deal that I find myself listening to nay and every podcast, reading blogs, etc. I am ready and motivated I just need a push in the right direction. Thanks everyone!

Post: Just starting out advice on SB9

Gabriel OrdunaPosted
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Hello all,

I am just beginning to start investing.  I have listened to podcasts, joined BP, and have put annoffer on a few properties with the intent to rent them out.  I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on getting started? I have been using the rental and property estimator on BP, but I feel like I could be doing more.  
One lender has approached me with an SB-9 offer. Essentially they have a developer that is offering a multi stage loan process to build ADU's on your property. It's a fairly new senate bill and it sounds too good to be true but I was wondering if anyone had any success or failures with regard to this type of situation. Glad to be a part of the community and I can't wait to meet new likeminded people.