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All Forum Posts by: Gabriel Miritello

Gabriel Miritello has started 23 posts and replied 53 times.

Post: Introduction and Seeking Advice on Best Way to Leverage $50,000

Gabriel Miritello
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Hey,

I am active Army and invest in Savannah. Message me with your phone number and ill reach out.

-Gabe

Post: Multi Fam Numbers running questions

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Quote from @Gino Barbaro:

@Gabriel Miritello

Nice last name, BTW!

There is no quick answer. A lot of the expenses are driven by the market. We look at a per door expense, and see if the operator is above or below that. Community banks can give you a good idea of expenses, along with property management companies.

Property management is another market driven, and also number of units. It can vary from 10% for smaller assets, to 3-5% for 100 plus units.

Every one has different goals. We focus on PPU (proft per unit) of about 250 -300 per unit in our market. If you are syndicating a deal, PPU is not as important because you will own very little equity in the deal and looking to create equity to exit.

Be careful with older assets, and over paying. Debt is pulling back and expecting in many cases, along with insurance for new owners to cure these problems. Not having enough reserves is hurting a lot of operators right now.

You can always implement Ratio Billing for the utilities and bill back.

Be careful with unit sizes, and if there is central air or PTAC systems when getting market rental comps.

Looks like you've got an opportunity

Gino


 Gino,

Thanks paisano. My big concern right now is that cash flow, reserves, and fixes don't feel right. Cash flow as is today is $140 TOTAL for the complex. I know I can get the rents up but that will be a year (repairs and tenants changing) and even then I would around $50 a unit. 

Did a walk through Friday. Submettering is an very viable option($$ knob and tube(1961 construction) ) and there is 1 water heater per building(3 building=14 units)(individual AC units). Those W/H are old and don't work great. so to get increased rent, I am thinking plumbing of tankless in each unit. (Costly but will eliminate need of gas bill, can tie into electric).

The money I see is in the expansion over the next 2 years. 10 more units, 14 storage units, and on site laundry(already plumbed). Rough est is $500k (contractor walk through) with approx $9k earnings monthly.

All this said. My hang up is getting to that expansion before issues pop up.

Comps as is were $1.1 mil. Insurance told me as is, is $1 3-1.4M. So the potential is there...but if I am underwater every month and stressed idk if that's worth it. 

Thoughts? How much for reserves would you want? Looking at what I know- would you still want cashflow $250-300 yr one?

Thanks for weighing in.

Post: Multi Fam Numbers running questions

Gabriel Miritello
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Quote from @Joshua Christensen:

@Gabriel Miritello These are a lot of questions you have going into this deal.

First.  You mentioned developing 7-14 units or storage.  Do you have any experience with development?  Does the proforma include "potential" non-existent units?  

 Second.  It doesn't sound like you're using a multi-family spreadsheet calculator to underwrite your deal. If you're looking at PITI, that is a residential 1-4 unit figure, not used in Multi Family underwriting. Taxes and Insurance are part of your expenses. Debt service is the mortgage payment deducted after expenses are subtracted out of income.

 Third.  10-20% under markert value rents.  That's a wide spread.  Have you contacted apartments personally or are you taking the brokers word?  Do the work and look at the rents surrounding the property.  Same size apartments, similar amenities, and similar type of complex if you can find them.  This will not compare to a large apartment complex.  It will compare closer to 4-20 unit MF complexes.   

Fourth. Per door, not so much. Cash Flow on day one on a property this size is not likely, especially if your rent is currently 10-20% low. Plan on 18-24 months before you realize positive cash flow. You'll have deferred maintenance, capex, low rents, vacancy issues, evictions, etc. to deal with the first year. Does your PM charge sales tax on top of the 10%? What's the mark-up on your PM's maintenance costs? Vacancy is based on the area norm and the past performance of the property, so not a set amount. Capex is based on the property and what it NEEDS to produce.

Fifth.  Master metering is not a bad thing.  You can actually charge a RUBS fees with the rent to offset utilities.  Check with the local utilities to see what the max is they allow in that area.  Usually not a source of revenue, but the billing comes to the landlord who passes it to the tenants on a pro-rata basis.  Example> 10,000 SQ ft total.  A 1000 SQFT apartment is 10% of the building meaning 10% of the Bill monthly.  Most people charge a flat fee across the board to each tenant and then eat the difference.

Good luck.   

 Joshua,

Thank you for this crash course. 100% ii was using PITI as i do with my single families, i will adjust and look at that. No experience with Develpoment. Cash flow - rents in the area are $800-900 based on a search of what's available, current rents are $600-750. with Section 8 @ $800 for a 1/1. I will do some additional research. Never heard of a RUBs fee - I will research.

Thank you again, a lot for me to look at. The information I needed.

Post: Multi Fam Numbers running questions

Gabriel Miritello
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Quote from @Victor Collazo:

Hey Gabriel,

This is very deal specific, but we don't look at it as a per door profit as there will be some months where that 1 door doesn't make anything due to vacancy, turnover etc. We look at what we can offer our investors and this again is deal/market dependent, but we our goal right now based on a 5 year hold is 15-20%IRR, 7-8% Cash on Cash, 20%AAR and 2x EM. Happy to discuss more.


Thank you for weighing in. I will run those numbers based on a 5 yr hold. I looked at CoC, but not IRR or AAR - thank you for ranges you look for!!

Post: Multi Fam Numbers running questions

Gabriel Miritello
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Hello,

Looking at a 14 unit with room to expand (potentially 7-14 additional units or 30 storage units or a combo of each). However i have a few questions to make sure my numbers make sense.

I have spoken with a lender and estimating 8% rates. I am working with an insurance company who is putting together an estimate. Taxes are 2.9%. Rent rolls have been provided and are at about 10-20% under market value.

Questions:

When looking at MF - what are your goals? $$ per door, CAP rate, or something else? I am looking for $150 a door after ALL (PITI, vacancy, capex, maint, 10% prop management) expenses. Am I wrong?

What % are you planning for vacancy, capex, maint, prop management when running numbers?

Property needs a few things. Any concerns or ideas on prices?

-asphalt parking/driving(currently dirt with massive pot holes)(awaiting estimate form local company)

-Individual metering (previous hotel, 3 different buildings(2 doors, 7 doors, and 6 doors), all on one meter)

Any advice or things to consider are appreciated.

Post: Leveraging Real Estate Assets For Lucrative Government Contracts

Gabriel Miritello
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Noble,

Great podcast. I am active Army and would like to chat. PM sent.

-Gabe

Post: Looking for a New Area - Las Cruces

Gabriel Miritello
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Hey all,

I am looking at expanding beyond Savannah, GA. I am currently in El Paso, TX and when you add in property taxes, i can not find a way that long term multifamily works. So it's time to branch out. 

Does any one have any info on multis in Las Cruces? I will continue flips and SFH rentals in Savannah but want to find the next market.

If you could help with:

-concerns on NM being a lamd lord friendly state.

-best areas(I have ideas but would love to hear yours)

-a multi family experienced realtor

-property management group


Looking for small to mid multi Duplex to 30 units also would be interested in mobile home park info.

If you want to meet up, coffee on me.

Post: Another BRRRR - not as much cash flow but the equity was there.

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Some reason i cant post the after photos

Post: Another BRRRR - not as much cash flow but the equity was there.

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Post: Another BRRRR - not as much cash flow but the equity was there.

Gabriel Miritello
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Investment Info:

Single-family residence other investment.

Purchase price: $65,000
Cash invested: $70,000

The house was all about building equity and the long term game. This home also taught me 2 important lessons - it never hurts to ask and just because a contractor was good before doesn't mean he'll be good next time.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was sitting on the market for a very long time.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

MLS - swing for the fences and offer a low ball offer

How did you finance this deal?

Cash - from previous BRRRR

How did you add value to the deal?

Complete reno

What was the outcome?

$100 cash flow and $50K equity

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Never hurts to ask: The original MLS list price was $125K it dropped to $110K after 30 days and finally dropped to $95K after 3 months. I had my realtor reach out with a $60K cash offer. They countered at $70K and we settled at $65K. After putting in $70K in reno, I was all in at $135K. I pulled 130K out and it was appraised at $185K.

Contractor was great on 2 previous projects - but fell off towards the end of this one. Made a 3 month project 5.5 months. I didnt pay up front - that saved me.