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All Forum Posts by: Gabriella Borukhov

Gabriella Borukhov has started 10 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Getting cold feet... please help run my numbers

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Gabriella Borukhov:

I finally decided to invest in a fix and flip. Everything was making sense until I had a bunch of people around me tell me it's a huge risk. Now I'm so scared because I don't want to lose money and have a bad experience. It is my first flip and it is quite a "bigger" flip but the numbers made sense to me and wanted to know what some of you experienced investors think. 

Some details about the property. It is about 1900 sq ft. It is located In Florida.  Owner died and house has been vacant ever since. There was a probate. I did get a inspection done. Roof was done 10 years ago but there were some leaks identified so inspector recommended that I change the roof. It's on a block lot, no foundation issues were identified. HVAC is updated. Plumbing looks good as well. (Water ran for about 6 minutes). Electricity is good as well. Only issues that we have identified that we need to fix are cosmetics. Completely renovate the kitchen, 2 small size bathrooms, floors all over, "freshen up the windows" (windows were pretty old but contractor said we might not need to change them), cut off tree branches on top of the roof, add a walkway in the front. There was some termite damage on the fascia as well. Also, rodent droppings were detected.  

Home price is $369,000 

Rehab given is $80,000 

Down payment is $44,900 

Loan amount that I will owe back is $404,100 

Loan is for 6 months 

Holding cost for full 6 months is ($3500*6) = 21,000

Closing cost = 19,553

ARV = 575000 (my agent said $600,000 but I am doing 575,000 to be conservation, with the way the market is going I do question if I should estimate it lower)

With my math, using the full rehab loan and full 6 months with selling costs included, I estimate around a $53,000 profit. 

If I finish and sell faster, even better. 

This is definitely a lot to take on for a first time flip but I did put $10,000 earnest money down already and don't want to lose that. With all this information about the home, do you think there is enough of a profit margin to work with? It has been vacant for a couple years, do you think that there might be additional problems that will skew my numbers in a large way? Is 80k enough for a renovation this size ? My biggest fear is that there may be a huge issues that arises that prevents me from being able to sell my house. It could just be fear talking. Also, my backup plan may be to do a cash out refinance and leave some cash in the house but not 100% sure what the best option is yet. I would greatly appreciate advice and opinions. Would these numbers make sense to you and is there anything that I may be missing?

 All we care about it the numbers, NOTHING else matters. ALL IN just under 510kKISH, Sell for NET about 560 net, TERRIBLE deal do not do it , WAY too tight. FL the bubble is going burst. 

Good luck 

PS find a better deal, this is not good   


 what do you think if I can negotiate price down to 340,000?

Post: Getting cold feet... please help run my numbers

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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Quote from @Ward Dement:

I've been in Sarasota over 30 years.  It's easy to have a bad contractor experience, but there are very good ones too.  Unfortunately, with the growth in our area over the last several years, they are completely booked.  You might find your timeline too short to get the renovations finished and the house sold.

Sounds like you may have purchased right. But $575M to $600M ARV, no pool(?) sounds aggressive to me, even in our market. The plus is the 1,700 SF size. If it's a "true" 1,700, no garage conversion or patio enclosure, you might get close. Otherwise, you're moving internal concrete block walls and your renovation cost is way under to get a standard floor plan.

Happy to offer an additional "two cents" if desired.


Yes, A huge reason of why I calculated that ARV is because it's in the city of Sarsasota. Right next to downtown and I feel like those properties are more expensive. Its also on a 14,000 sq ft lot. I would love to hear your additional "two cents". I will send you a message.

Post: Getting cold feet... please help run my numbers

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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Quote from @Taylor L.:

Can you be more specific with its location in Florida?


 It's in the city limits of Sarasota. 

Post: Getting cold feet... please help run my numbers

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
  • New to Real Estate
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  • Votes 14

I finally decided to invest in a fix and flip. Everything was making sense until I had a bunch of people around me tell me it's a huge risk. Now I'm so scared because I don't want to lose money and have a bad experience. It is my first flip and it is quite a "bigger" flip but the numbers made sense to me and wanted to know what some of you experienced investors think. 

Some details about the property. It is about 1900 sq ft. It is located In Florida.  Owner died and house has been vacant ever since. There was a probate. I did get a inspection done. Roof was done 10 years ago but there were some leaks identified so inspector recommended that I change the roof. It's on a block lot, no foundation issues were identified. HVAC is updated. Plumbing looks good as well. (Water ran for about 6 minutes). Electricity is good as well. Only issues that we have identified that we need to fix are cosmetics. Completely renovate the kitchen, 2 small size bathrooms, floors all over, "freshen up the windows" (windows were pretty old but contractor said we might not need to change them), cut off tree branches on top of the roof, add a walkway in the front. There was some termite damage on the fascia as well. Also, rodent droppings were detected.  

Home price is $369,000 

Rehab given is $80,000 

Down payment is $44,900 

Loan amount that I will owe back is $404,100 

Loan is for 6 months 

Holding cost for full 6 months is ($3500*6) = 21,000

Closing cost = 19,553

ARV = 575000 (my agent said $600,000 but I am doing 575,000 to be conservation, with the way the market is going I do question if I should estimate it lower)

With my math, using the full rehab loan and full 6 months with selling costs included, I estimate around a $53,000 profit. 

If I finish and sell faster, even better. 

This is definitely a lot to take on for a first time flip but I did put $10,000 earnest money down already and don't want to lose that. With all this information about the home, do you think there is enough of a profit margin to work with? It has been vacant for a couple years, do you think that there might be additional problems that will skew my numbers in a large way? Is 80k enough for a renovation this size ? My biggest fear is that there may be a huge issues that arises that prevents me from being able to sell my house. It could just be fear talking. Also, my backup plan may be to do a cash out refinance and leave some cash in the house but not 100% sure what the best option is yet. I would greatly appreciate advice and opinions. Would these numbers make sense to you and is there anything that I may be missing?

Post: My first fix and flip.. what to watch out for?

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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Quote from @Jack Schwartz:

Hi Gabriella,

I just wanted to drop you a message and wish you the best of luck with your new flipping venture! Congratulations on taking the leap.

I did notice in your email that you haven't seen the house in person and that you got an estimate from a contractor - do you know them personally? Did they take you through the entire interior and exterior on Zoom or remotely? I just want to make sure you're taking the necessary steps to protect yourself.

I've had my fair share of experiences with contractors, and I know how important it is to be cautious. When I bought a 45-unit development overseas, I hired a local contractor who took a deposit of $280,000 for supplies and machinery. Long story short, I lost communication with him and ended up having to flip the property as is. It was a tough lesson learned, but it taught me to never buy properties too far from home and to visit the property often.

I hope that sharing my experience might help you in some way.

Remember to invest in security measures such as installing video cameras throughout the property so you can closely monitor everything and ensure your hired contractor is doing their job properly. This will help you catch any potential issues before they become bigger problems.

I wish you all the best for your new venture of flipping homes! It can be a challenging yet rewarding experience. I'm sure with your passion, dedication, and attention to detail, you will do great. If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to reach out on this great platform, Good luck!


 Hey Jack! Thanks for the advice. I haven't had a contractor walk through the property yet. I did have an inspection however and was quoted quite a different price than what the contractors told me so I am going to try to schedule the contractor to walk through the property with me on Facetime. As someone who is experienced in the industry, do you value the option of an inspector more than the contractor, or vice versa? I've been told by my agent that a lot of inspectors aren't used to distressed properties and should listen to my contractor instead. What do you think? 

Post: My first fix and flip.. what to watch out for?

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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Quote from @Kyle Ebersole:

First off, congrats on your first flip! It will be an adventure, but you will love it. 

How far away are you from the house? I have personally found out that doing a flip more than an hour and a half away involves a ton of learning curves, they take longer than my other projects, and I normally make less. Reason being is dealing with new contractors, learning a new area, etc, can be difficult. Since this is your first one, I would tread carefully if it is super far away. 

Your biggest thing is going to be your contractors. I would vet them.. a lot. Ask for references of other work they have done, other investors they have worked for, pictures of projects, etc. I would get multiple estimates and make sure you go over the top with details and communication. Set up payment plans and all expectations up front. Timeline, who's buying materials, design selections, etc. When you run numbers, put a good amount in for a contingency. There will be surprises. Plan for them instead by putting it into your budget instead of them coming out of your bottom line. 

Big ticket items that will ruin the deal? Foundation issues, really bad mechanicals that you have to replace, city permits (some can be an absolute bear to work with), and septic systems (if it's not public). 

Other things to check into.. are you accounting for all your closing costs on both sides of the transaction? Did you double check your ARV with a local realtor who knows the market? Are you a normal house in a neighborhood or a one off house that doesn't fit into its surroundings?

Best of luck with this one and I hope it goes well for you! 
 


 Hey Kyle! 

Thanks for the advice. It is a property that is quite far away from me. Can I ask why they take longer if it's far away. It is a place where I vacation at often so feel comfortable enough to know the areas. But I won't be physically there. Do you think this would be a disadvantage and is there a way I can work around it? 

Post: New Western R E Investors

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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I just bought my first purchase with them. Read through the bad reviews and it deff scared me but the numbers made sense to me on this deal so we shall see. 

Post: My first fix and flip.. what to watch out for?

Gabriella BorukhovPosted
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So I was offered a new western deal .. and before anyone says anything. I have read all the reviews about new western so I am aware that I should have avoided them but they made it really easy for me to understand everything and after running the numbers, the deal really made sense to me. Now I never saw this house in person, and I've never done a fix and flip before so I am quite unaware of what to look out for. I've had a contractor give me their estimate and I've worked out the lender fees. Is there anything that I need to look out for that could potentially ruin this deal? I've been saving up for a long time for this and want to minimize as much risk as possible so I would like to be prepared. From past experiences, please let me know what I need to look out for when it comes to flipping a home. 

Quote from @Brandon LaVallee:

It depends on what the location is in Old Town. When does the lease start? Spring training and close to the Giants stadium could be a big win for you. Are you familiar with all the new rules with Scottsdale Airbnb's? I lived in Old Town for 11 years and just moved. Had an Airbnb there as well.  


I'm aware that you have to register for a license to operate as a short term rental. It's not too far from the Scottsdale stadium. It's near Vista del Camino park. The lease starts next week after I sign the contract. How did you do with your airbnb? Would you recommend it? 

I've been given the opportunity to rental arbitrage a 4 bedroom house, 3 bathroom, 2 kitchen and living area home in Old Town, Scottsdale, AZ. The rent is $3450 with landscaping and pest control included. I would have to be responsible for other utilities. There is no pool BUT there is a putting green in the backyard. As I am searching online, it looks as if it's very hard to get bookings for AZ. According to airdna, the unit will rent out for $400 but when I check on airbnb, there is a LOT of competition and these places look amazing with a lot more amenities like a pool/hot tub renting out for the same price.. while I believe that my unit has A LOT of potential, I am a newbie and am getting concerned that I will lose money on this deal. I live in NY so will be managing remotely. Is this a good deal and what can I do to minimize risk?