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All Forum Posts by: Frank Oudheusden

Frank Oudheusden has started 10 posts and replied 46 times.

Post: New member from San Francisco

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Welcome!

Post: Anyone from Rochester, NY?

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Hey, everyone.

I don't live in Rochester but I went to school there and recently bought my first sfh rental there. Will be buying more after my wedding in August. Glad to see other WNY people on BP.

Post: Student Loan Risk Vs. Real Estate Investing

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

All,
I have created a pretty solid REI business plan and have taken down my first deal. A SFH for 50k rented at $1300/mo in Rochester, NY. 15.1% Cap Rate, 23.6% CoC Return. A great deal by most standards. Now I'm obviously salivating to find another and wash-rinse-repeat my way to financial independence!

As I sat down last weekend and reviewed the plan and did my monthly finances I started to ponder the risk of my variable interest rate student loans, my upcoming wedding (August) and my real estate goals. I've come to a series of questions that self-education has not been able to answer. I'm hoping you all can offer some advice. I will use real numbers so we have something to play with.

My wife and I are both engineers, currently working and making good money and living within our means.

Our combined student loan debt is ~$143k across 5 different lenders. We currently pay about $1086 a month in loan payments and make all payments on-time and in-full.

$65,500 of that is a Parent Plus loan fixed at 6.8%. We still pay $531 a month towards it (the full payment) but it won't affect our DTI since we are not personally on the loan.

$34,595 are private loans at 3% variable interest currently.

$43,332 are fed loans with a mix of direct-sub, direct-unsub, variable and fixed interest rates (2.14% and 6.55% respectively).

A 23.6% CoC return in REI makes it obvious to me to continue to put capital there and pay off the loans at a steady-rate. The interest rate would need to be fairly high to compete with this. I also understand that when loans are newer (I graduated in 2008 and she in 2011) the interest is front loaded in the amortization so putting small additional principal payments in can yield big savings (greater than 23.6%).

Student Loans are non-recourse but I'm not very worried about defaulting. Interest rates could rise and it would hurt but I don't believe it to be catastrophic, I could most likely cover the increase in loan payments with cash flow from the asset investments (buy assets not pay for liabilities right?)

I'm not risk-adverse but I'm wondering if I'm missing something big? Do I pay off the student loans for fear of them ballooning to 9/12/15% just to watch the government cap the interest rate raises on student loans when the economy bounces back to bail-out students without direct forgiveness?

I have considered backing off my plan to purchased building #2 with a 401k and saving that as an emergency student loan consolidation plan since I'll be paying myself 3%. That comes with it's own risks...but I was going to take those risks anyway with the building.

I have reached analysis paralysis. I feel I need to act...consolidate under a fixed rate and pay more in the short term?...pay down loans?...keep steady on my REI plan?. So much to worry about and so little cash.

Thanks,
-Frank-

Post: New from Rochester, NY

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Welcome Eric. I invest in Rochester as well. Look forward to seeing you on the forums more.

I had gone to school in Rochester for 5 years and was comfortable with the city layout, neighborhoods, colleges, etc. I knew it was a great rental market (60% rental in the city as opposed to 40% owner occupied) and despite the population trends and Kodak I knew from living there that there was still economic development and growth.

Honestly I didn't look at my local market (Baltimore) too closely. The city has redeeming qualities but never really captured me. DC and the Maryland suburbs were just too expensive to start in.

Mark Updegraff,

Thank you for all the kind words. I couldn't have taken it down without you and your willingness to drive over there in the middle of the night and be my eyes on the ground. You've given me so much good advise.

I posted alittle bit about the investment here.

http://bit.ly/XrTuSq

The numbers are still evolving in my favor but it is still a great first deal. One down, many more to go!

Thanks,
-Frank-

Post: First Landlord Insurance Quote

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Hey everyone. I'm lining up hazard insurance for my first rental and I wanted to put some details up and get some opinions on if I missed anything.

Rental Details:
SFH - Purchase Price $49,900
3BR - 2 Levels - $1358 sqft - 1 car large garage

Insurance Details:
$70,000 ACV residence coverage (is this odd considering my purchase price is $50k?)
$7,000 private structure (garage)
$0 personal property
$7,000 additional living expense / loss of rents
$500,000 bodily injury and property damage
$1000/$10,000 - premises medical pay

Premium - $429/year

I asked my agent about students, she said they are fine on this one but they don't want to make it their market. We discussed no trampolines and that I will be allowing pets but restricting dog breeds.

I'm not adverse to putting a notice in the lease that the insurance doesn't cover the tenant items and I advise them to get renter's insurance.

I would expect 3-4 people to live in the home at any one time and am wondering if $500k in liability protection is sufficient?

Post: How long did it take to get your first deal?

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Just got my first one under contract a few weeks ago.

I read nothing but real estate and business books for about 15 months prior. After getting serious about finding a property it took about 2 months.

Post: The story of my first deal...

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Ned,
Yes you are correct on both accounts.
-Frank-

Post: The story of my first deal...

Frank OudheusdenPosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 11

Rochester, NY actually. Forgot to mention that!

I've not looked too closely at the Baltimore market to be honest. I'll check out your blog Ned!