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All Forum Posts by: Fernanda B.

Fernanda B. has started 1 posts and replied 17 times.

Originally posted by @Ryan D.:

@Fernanda B. - what @Brent Coombs said is right. I don't think anyone here is making any type of acquisitions. What we are saying is that the advertised facts of an unreliable tenant, plus a quit claim deed, plus an incredibly low asking price, all sum up to be a questionable set of circumstances that raise a lot of red flags for investors. I suspect this is not be what you had intended, but it is the way the situation has been received by the investors on this thread.

Given the feedback, you can take this as constructive criticism that "perhaps I can advertise this deal/situation in a way that address and alleviates the obvious concerns of potential buyers".

 Yes, I can see that. There are a lot of other factors involved, as I said, with his family. He needs to sell this asap. I will repeat this AGAIN - the sale can be through a title company. I already contacted them last week to see what the costs would be to transfer the title. 

To the person above, I know the only debts on the house are back taxes (around 2000). 

Originally posted by @Brent Coombs:

@Fernanda B., so, you're admitting that the "owner" (I've added inverted commas this time; I should have last time too) is not making any promises to anyone?

My main point is: Back in the day, Quit Claim Deeds were only ever intended to be swapped between family members / beneficiaries, not for every random outsider Tom, Dick and Harry that they could try to squeeze money out of! 

ie. If the Title is good, rather than just thinking that "caveat emptor" covers the seller's back, it should be worth it to the Seller to ask for more than $2k, offered with a guaranteed Warranty Deed, cleared through a Title Company. That's what the Buyer will later attempt to do anyway, and would stand to make a killing, right? What's that? You can't say?

Oh well, there's plenty of properties that aren't worth more than $2k as-is anyway, so if the Seller isn't going to help in any way with the homework, why make trouble for ourselves by risking this one? Onto the next Warranty Deeded one...

 Nobody is promising anything because there are legal documents to prove it. I thought this was obvious. 
There are more factors that you are not aware of, as to why he's selling for this much - he wants to get rid of the place for more reasons than money alone. He has money now and is moving away (family related issues). 

The seller IS FINE using a title company. In his words, if he gets $2000 out of his deal, he's satisfied. Did you read the post?

You're assuming these documents aren't present. You're wrong and not helpful.  

Originally posted by @Brent Coombs:
Originally posted by @Fernanda B.:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

What kind of debt and other liens exist against the house now?

I bet it's under water.  For $2k you'll buy a house with more debt on it than it would be worth IF it was vacant and in good condition. Woo-hoo!

 There are back taxes, that the owner will pay before selling.

Fernanda, you can see how your statement looks, can't you? This is what the owner is suggesting:

"Give me $2000 now, and I promise that the piece of paper I give you will say that any vested interest I have in the property will become yours (even though I'm offering no proof that I have any in the first place, or who else might), and by the way, any Taxes and other Liens that are outstanding, er, of course I'll attend to them with the money you give me. How much is actually owed? Oh, I don't have those figures with me right now, but give me the $2000, and I'll certainly look for the relevant documents".

Tell the owner: Good luck with that!

 You're making a lot of assumptions here. Anyway, thanks for the useful tips.

Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

What kind of debt and other liens exist against the house now?

I bet it's under water.  For $2k you'll buy a house with more debt on it than it would be worth IF it was vacant and in good condition. Woo-hoo!

 There are back taxes, that the owner will pay before selling.

Originally posted by @Ryan Boren:

I’ll take the house from you.

 Ok. Message me for details?

Originally posted by @Ryan D.:

Quit-claim deeds are the least desirable form of deed, as they don't actually convey title. All a quit-claim says is "I renounce any claim I have in this property" which has NO baring on claims ANYONE ELSE may have on the property. If I was a potential buyer, I would be suspicious of this situation.
For what reason does your friend want to use a quit-claim? Is the title clouded? Are their liens?

If the tenant is not reliable, and your friend is unwilling to evict, then he is essentially (& knowingly) selling a lemon. I don't understand, why not just evict?

 Why quit claim deed - Easiest and less costly than a title transfer. He can go with the title transfer, though. He doesn't want to deal with an eviction. Yes, this is not a pretty, easy deal. That's why he's selling a house for $2000. This was never a secret. 

Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Fernanda B.:

I'm helping a friend sell a house. He bought this property in 2008 and rented it to someone he felt he needed to help. The tenant has been living there ever since. Turns our he's a bad tenant (surprise? no.). 

My friend is moving to another state and just wants to get rid of that house, but doesn't want to go through the eviction process. The tenant doesn't want to leave, but is not exactly paying on time. I suggested we would try and sell it as tenant occupied. 

The place doesn't have many pictures because the tenant has so much stuff in there it's difficult to see anything, but we managed to have pictures of the roof, foundation, water heater and the outside. 

At this point, he wants to do a quit claim deed for $2000 and get done with it. Taxes are around $500. 

In this scenario, can I expect to find a buyer who's willing to deal with this? How can I increase my chances of selling?

 I think Illinois has a hefty transfer tax doesn't it? What are the costs for eviction and how long is the process?

 He did a tax claim deed in another property. It took 15 minutes at the courthouse. 

Originally posted by @Deanna McCormick:

Why don't you buy it.. only 2 K.. then you non-renew tenant file eviction if he's not out in 30 days and clean it and FLIP it yourself.

 I don't want to deal with that either, honestly. I've been saving money for my next deal and it will be a large down payment.

I'm helping a friend sell a house. He bought this property in 2008 and rented it to someone he felt he needed to help. The tenant has been living there ever since. Turns our he's a bad tenant (surprise? no.). 

My friend is moving to another state and just wants to get rid of that house, but doesn't want to go through the eviction process. The tenant doesn't want to leave, but is not exactly paying on time. I suggested we would try and sell it as tenant occupied. 

The place doesn't have many pictures because the tenant has so much stuff in there it's difficult to see anything, but we managed to have pictures of the roof, foundation, water heater and the outside. 

At this point, he wants to do a quit claim deed for $2000 and get done with it. Taxes are around $500. 

In this scenario, can I expect to find a buyer who's willing to deal with this? How can I increase my chances of selling?

Post: BEWARE of fraud by erentpayment.com

Fernanda B.Posted
  • Peoria, IL
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 7

and if you didn't read the news feed on their page:

https://support.erentpayment.com/news/66/pending-payments-submitted-after-10-12-2017.aspx