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All Forum Posts by: Fatima Champagne

Fatima Champagne has started 10 posts and replied 85 times.

Post: Philadelphia GC Recommendations

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21

Can anyone recommend an experienced contractor who is 1) willing to do a walk through to provide rehab/repair estimates and 2) licensed and insured. I am looking to purchase a multi-family in the new year and want to set myself up so that I'm able to move quickly with bids.

Post: Angel Investors - the refinancing process

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21

@Jon Holdman very helpful response. Thank you. 

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Todd Dexheimer:

Buying a property with existing tenants is not risky like others have said. If you get a rent roll, profit and loss, leases and monthly bank statements that shows the payment history of the tenants, there is no reason to believe they will all of a sudden become bad tenants. 

Raising rent is possible as well if the my are under rented. Raise one tenant at a time when their lease expires. If they move out, then renovate the unit and ask for the new market rent. Then repeat.

Thank you Todd. If I do acquire an occupied multi-family, I believe this may be my best approach. 

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Alvin Sylvain:
@Fatima Champagne Existing tenants CAN BE a problem, unless you happen to know the seller had a thorough screening process (hah!) For that matter, new tenants can be a problem sometimes, despite your most excellent screening. Personally, unless I get information contrariwise, I give people the benefit of a doubt. I've read stories on BP where one tenant was great, and another was a pain. Do what you can to keep the good ones, and encourage the others to live elsewhere.

Thank you Alvin. It seems that the recurring theme is do your due diligence as best you can, but know that things can still go south.  

Post: Fannie Mae Conventional Loans

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21

Definitely some good info on this thread. Thanks everyone. 

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

When purchasing occupied properties it is all to often necessary to evict or non renew leases. Inherited tenants simply do not always work out. You will find this is especially the case with long term tenants since the present owner has likely ignored the operations of their business. Beyond cashing checks they have likely had no involvement and the tenants will probably cause issues for a new owner. 

What I would do is purchase a property with two empty units or one empty and terminate one other after purchase, leases permitting. You then reno one and live in the other. Once reno is complete you move to that unit and reno the one you moved out of, rent it when completed and non renew another tenant to reno it etc. until all units are renovated and rented to new tenants. All existing tenants must  ultimately leave. This is the advantage of purchasing properties with all M2M leases.

 You can then move on to your next property.

Thank you Thomas. I have yet to hear about the tenants, their leases, or past history. I will definitely take your advice into consideration if the tenants prove to be more of a problem. I am a bit hesitant with such actions, however, as Philadelphia is known as tenant-friendly rather than landlord-friendly. I understand this can cause a headache when dealing with evictions.

In the event that the tenants are good, how would you recommend I go about renovations? 

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Chris May:
Originally posted by @Brad Sicoli:
@Fatima Champagne

Whether or not a unit is vacant is irrelevant. When you go under contract ask the seller if any of the tenants have been a problem. In my experIence they have offered honest feedback and they even offered to evict them for me before closIng.

Also, “owner occupied” is a requirement for primary residence mortgage for 2-4 units. It is something you tell an underwriter. After the loan closes, you know, live where you want...

Failing to move into a property with a primary residence mortgage within 60 days is mortgage fraud... a felony punishable with prison time.

Don't take this advice.

 Thank you Chris. I have all intentions of moving into the property. I have read a number of posts about mortgage fraud and the consequences are not something I care to experience.   

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21

@Todd Keith I'm looking at local properties

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Bjorn Ahlblad:

@Fatima Champagne one thing to consider is how well the existing tenants were screened. Inadequately screened inherited tenants can be a real source of grief and frustration to say nothing of ruining a unit when you finally evict them. Or they move out one night and leave you a parting gift!

 Thank you for that point Bjorn. 

Post: Buying An Occupied Multi-Family

Fatima ChampagnePosted
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Sam T.:
@Fatima Champagne

The main drawback that comes to mind is possible (likely?) evictions, unless you just get very lucky with the quality of the current tenants. So I'd mentally prepare for that.

Is the property in bad shape, or just "meh" shape and you want to fix up up and make it top-of-the-line to force the value up?

 Hey Sam - I believe they are long term tenants.  Also, the property doesn't appear to be in bad shape although I have yet to get the opinion of a contractor.