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All Forum Posts by: Ken Chen

Ken Chen has started 3 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: First Step Towards this world

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Staten Island.

Purchase price: $690,000
Cash invested: $300,000

6/6 two family detach house in HOA at 77 monthly. New construction home site.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

House hacking originally, Lived in one unit.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

At the time I have my real estate license in New York for the point of the deal.

Post: Investing in Ohio

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Ken Chen what about Ypsi?

Got outbid on properties. 

with my budget at the time I was only trying for 150k and under. Recently cash flow was getting better which gotten me more ideas. 

Post: Hello all, I am new to this world.

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7

Hello everyone, I have been on the site without an account for a while now and I recently made that change to pursue this option with my wife. I am basically the traditional Asian family that spent my entire life saving money and purchasing a place in New York City, and after trying to survive for a while I find it too hard now that it’s 2 people and decided to move back to my hometown and do some investing looking for cash flow in particular. Hoping to find class c houses to eventually reach a higher monthly income from all the rentals. With 2-3 years of planning. 

I continue to work from home but not making enough to be an accredited investor. 

The way I saw real estate at the time was, saving money, buying a multi family, live there with tenant who help pay for my house. And while saving money until I can buy a new place to live. Recently did that again and thought I can use the income I’m bringing in from the house to increase cash flow. 

I would like to invest in Michigan but there is some mindset barriers which is why I thought investing out of state wouldn’t be too bad. 

Post: Investing in Ohio

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Ken Chen under $50k => either Class C or D properties, neither of which we recommend be DIY managed remotely.

Pontiac & the City of Detroit have properties that will meet these requirements, but are you ready for the corresponding challenges of dealing with low-income tenants?

Toledo pretty much offers the same, if you're set on that city connect with @Engelo Rumora



Thanks for the plug mate,

Hi Ken,

We probably won't be able to assist as we offer turnkey and only to cash buyers.

Our lowest entry point is $65,000 and that buys a 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom home that will rent for around $800pm.

Plus, I'm pissed of with investors and lately and keeping all deals for myself hehe

I think you are on the right track with the 43607, 43612 and 43613 zip code.

I encourage you to take a look at 43609 and select areas of 43610 and 43620.

BRRR out of state is a recipe for disaster but since you are in Michigan, it isn't too bad I guess.

Even being as close as you are and even if you lived in Toledo, I would always advise to get professional property management.

An investors role is just that, to be an "investor".

Elevate and delegate...

Sure, you can probably manage 1,2 or 10 properties but that can eventually turn into a full time job.

IMO, you should focus on scaling as in finding deals, raising capital, buying more properties, growing your portfolio, etc...

And not dealing with tenants and toilets.

Wishing you much success



I'm not sure if I made a mistake in my post about the 50k part, but if the math is right I should be right above your lowest entry point. 

Post: Investing in Ohio

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Ken Chen

I have a hard time believing that there is no market in Michigan within a couple hours of you that is reasonably affordable.  Where specifically are you located?  Maybe you can house hack in Michigan - have you tried exploring that?  Don't rule out the entire Detroit metro area... that makes no sense.

And no, I am not saying buy with no loan, I'm saying: don't buy 60k houses.  Anywhere.


 Salem Michigan near Ann Arbor, and I'm searching for 1 hour drive locations preferably and so far I only went out to that radius and avoiding Detroit at the moment. I thought about Okemos, East Lansing, Lansing, tecumseh, belleville and a few other areas in these direction before but there isn't enough places to look at and when searching toledo, there seems to be something new every week which is why I thought of going there. 

Most of the house hacking opprotunities near mean is too expensive to consider as a project for a new investor like me. 

I wasn't really into the idea of getting a house at 60k until I came across a few in the 43612 area that got me slightly interested. 

Post: Investing in Ohio

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Samuel Diouf:

Hey Ken, I would look into investing in your local market. I know Michigan has a very low barrier to entry. 


 The low market entry in Michigan tends to be trailer homes or homes far from a center point of something. There’s not much around that I can put a mindset on. 

Post: Investing in Ohio

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Ken Chen

"With what I have now, I’m looking to invest in an area that’s both affordable and ‘if I mess up, I won’t lose too much’ mindset hopefully."

OK - invest in Michigan then.  why go out of state?

the areas that I’m familiar with in Michigan are very expensive and I wouldn’t be able to afford too much more of another mortgage. I’m not looking for a trailer home, or apartment. Specifically houses and something within 1 hour of where I’m at, but no Detroit. Why no Detroit? I was brought up to believe thats not going too far, and there isn’t a cluster of something for you to believe in. I picked Toledo for the university and the growing, however small, Asian community on top of being an hour away from where I’m at.


"if a total newbie in this should really be trying to get a small loan (50k) to purchase two house around 60k each"

definitely not

Would you suggest one house with no loan then? 

"And if anyone who is out of state, also does the management yourself? Or hire a company to do it?"

Hire a company, 100%

"If so, what is your rates that you’re seeing."

the rate that the property manager charges?  8-10% monthly of gross rent





Post: Investing in Ohio

Ken ChenPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Salem Michigan
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 7

Hello members,

I am a first time investor recently moved back to Michigan, my focus was primary residents and after moving back, I had to rent my previous house out in New York which is producing some good income. With what I have now, I’m looking to invest in an area that’s both affordable and ‘if I mess up, I won’t lose too much’ mindset hopefully. After reading on the site for a while (days) I more interested in 43612 and 43613 areas as some mentioned. 

Prior to the site, I was set on areas around the university of Toledo, but after a few months searching, I’m still holding my bag. 

But right now, I wonder if a total newbie in this should really be trying to get a small loan (50k) to purchase two house around 60k each? For rental purposes, cash flow. 
or stick to one at a time? 

And if anyone who is out of state, also does the management yourself? Or hire a company to do it? If so, what is your rates that you’re seeing.