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All Forum Posts by: Eyal Goren

Eyal Goren has started 14 posts and replied 37 times.

Post: My first deal in Cleveland

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Dalton Summers:

On your C/O refinance. If you're thinking a Conventional loan... did your lender say if you'll be able to pass QM with such a small loan amount?

If you're going DSCR, can I ask who you/your lender is using? I'd like to know who else can do loan amounts under $100k. The interest rate you have listed seems extremely competitive - especially given the rough news on inflation this morning.


 I guess you're right about the amount, but the rate is reasonable. I heard 7.2% is what a friend got a week ago.

Post: My first deal in Cleveland

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Matthew Becker:

I would consider a C a bad property.   I would not consider a house that cheap to be near a B.  

At $1200 in rent, you will probably have negative cash flow.  Rising maintenance costs, turnover, Taxes, and other expenses will also contribute to this.  

It is OK not to have cash flow if you get great appreciation.  But I can't see why Cleveland would increase in value based on negative population growth and, generally, being a bad place to live.   If you can break even in Boulder, CO, with 20% down, the property value will probably double over 10 Years.  Not that you can break even there without a huge value add.  You will probably get very little appreciation if you break even in Cleveland.   

At most, you will pay down the debt, and inflation will eat up all gains. You would be better off putting money into a fund that performs at 6% to 8% somewhere with appreciation.  If you can find a good fund that is paying out cash flow.  Based on what I am seeing, many of them are doing calls.  They did their pro forma based on interest rates dropping to 5%.  We won't see that for quite some time, so they are upside down and not cash flowing.  


 Thanks for the tip Matthew, I'll check Boulder, CO .

Post: My first deal in Cleveland

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Sofia Komrskova:

Area is fine. The rent is high for just a 2 bed though, I don't think you will get 1300 for that. Overall I'd say the deal is not that great. You can get 3/1s and 4/1s in Garfield Heights at that price that will actually cashflow at 1300. Again, biggest issue here is the fact that it's only 2 beds. 


 Thanks. Appreciate that. Would you say 1200 is a better estimation for that area for a 2bd?

Post: My first deal in Cleveland

Eyal GorenPosted
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First time investing in Cleveland. Is this a good deal relative to the area?

$390 cashflow, ±20% CoC

My worry is that the area is not that great (is it ok?) - the property is based in Garfield Heights - and that my property tax will be much higher.

More details: https://brickbear.ai/share/deal/1/583

The numbers look ok, the neighborhood is good. But there arent a lot of photos. 

I'm not sure.

Post: Case Study: Cockroaches to Cash Flow

Eyal GorenPosted
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Super impressive. Just out of curiosity - how do people calculate DSCR?

Option 1 - 

NOI = Rent - (maintenance, vacancy, management, property tax, insurance)
or 

Option 2

NOI = Rent - (property tax, insurance)

in both cases i assume DSCR = monthly payment/NOI

Post: Is Subto legal?

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @Eyal Goren:

I read that every mortgage has a Due on Sale clause, which means you have to notify the lender when you sale the property and pay the entirety of the loan when you sell the property. 

How do people work with the clause and make these kinds of deals?


First, let's be very clear here.

The mortgage your speaking of is a private agreement between the seller and the lender. The "due on sale" clause (DoSC) obligates the seller to notify the lender if the property is sold.

Failing to do so would place the seller in violation of this agreement, giving the lender the right to accelerate the loan.

But no laws are being broken here.

So, subto is neither legal nor illegal.

Second, it only works because most lenders are more interested in receiving payments than in invoking the DoSC clause and foreclosing on the property.

But, it can work, provided seller and buyer are both on board and the proper process is followed.


Thanks for the clarification. What happens if the lender does accelerate the loan? I guess the seller would like to address that in the agreement. 

Post: Is Subto legal?

Eyal GorenPosted
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I read that every mortgage has a Due on Sale clause, which means you have to notify the lender when you sale the property and pay the entirety of the loan when you sell the property. 

How do people work with the clause and make these kinds of deals?

Post: Recommended DSCR lenders in DFW?

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Obed Calixte:

Is there a specific reason you want a DFW based lender?


 Not necessarily DFW based. But that is willing to invest in DFW.

Post: Recommended DSCR lenders in DFW?

Eyal GorenPosted
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We're looking for lenders who offer DSCR loans in DFW.

What's the best place to look for them? So far we only called banks that popped up on Google maps.