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All Forum Posts by: Eyal Goren

Eyal Goren has started 13 posts and replied 33 times.

The numbers look ok, the neighborhood is good. But there arent a lot of photos. 

I'm not sure.

Post: Case Study: Cockroaches to Cash Flow

Eyal GorenPosted
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Super impressive. Just out of curiosity - how do people calculate DSCR?

Option 1 - 

NOI = Rent - (maintenance, vacancy, management, property tax, insurance)
or 

Option 2

NOI = Rent - (property tax, insurance)

in both cases i assume DSCR = monthly payment/NOI

Post: Is Subto legal?

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @Eyal Goren:

I read that every mortgage has a Due on Sale clause, which means you have to notify the lender when you sale the property and pay the entirety of the loan when you sell the property. 

How do people work with the clause and make these kinds of deals?


First, let's be very clear here.

The mortgage your speaking of is a private agreement between the seller and the lender. The "due on sale" clause (DoSC) obligates the seller to notify the lender if the property is sold.

Failing to do so would place the seller in violation of this agreement, giving the lender the right to accelerate the loan.

But no laws are being broken here.

So, subto is neither legal nor illegal.

Second, it only works because most lenders are more interested in receiving payments than in invoking the DoSC clause and foreclosing on the property.

But, it can work, provided seller and buyer are both on board and the proper process is followed.


Thanks for the clarification. What happens if the lender does accelerate the loan? I guess the seller would like to address that in the agreement. 

Post: Is Subto legal?

Eyal GorenPosted
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I read that every mortgage has a Due on Sale clause, which means you have to notify the lender when you sale the property and pay the entirety of the loan when you sell the property. 

How do people work with the clause and make these kinds of deals?

Post: Recommended DSCR lenders in DFW?

Eyal GorenPosted
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Quote from @Obed Calixte:

Is there a specific reason you want a DFW based lender?


 Not necessarily DFW based. But that is willing to invest in DFW.

Post: Recommended DSCR lenders in DFW?

Eyal GorenPosted
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We're looking for lenders who offer DSCR loans in DFW.

What's the best place to look for them? So far we only called banks that popped up on Google maps.

Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:
Quote from @Eyal Goren:
Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

You're applying a BRRRR strategy to a turn-key rental house. There's no meat on the bone here. Heck, the a/c is brand new. The house in your example is prime for someone to put 25% down, have a $2000 month mortgage, and make $2400 in rent. That extra $400 covers maintenance, capex and vacancy.

So to answer your question, YES you are wrong. You can still BRRRR in this market but not when you're looking at a class A house that could rent for $2400 tomorrow.

 Can you share numbers of a hypothetical deal that does work?
Buy - $X ??

Rehab - $Y ??

Rent - $Z ??

For many investors, your example is an excellent buy-and-hold strategy. Buying one every few years could lead to significant wealth over time

For a BRRRR strategy, consider Lower price points and older homes with more substantial rehabs and higher risk.

Example:

Purchase: $110k
Rehab: $30k
ARV: $170k
Rent: $1,450/month
Refinancing at 75% LTV:
  Cash-out refinance: $127.5k
  Funds left in the deal: $13k
Monthly PITI: $1,258
  You have $192 for maintenance and vacancy cost

It's not a perfect BRRRR but way less than the 20% ($34k) you'd put down on a turn-key investment. In this example, we invested $13k to create $30k in equity plus you own a break-even, renovated rental property while growing your net worth.

    Thanks Gregory. 

    I took your numbers and put them in my model.

    I assumed your loan is at 7% for 30 y, for $127,500. The payment comes out as $848. Then I added insurance $180, proptax (2.2%) and maintenance 5%, vacancy 8%. I assumed self management.

    Total is negative 78.

    Quote from @Skyler Bissell:

    Some markets just don't pencil. But it's also heavily property dependent. If the property won't work for that amount, offer less. Or look elsewhere. I'm in Seattle and there haven't been real BRRRRs here in years haha


     Thanks. I guess you're right.

    Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

    You're applying a BRRRR strategy to a turn-key rental house. There's no meat on the bone here. Heck, the a/c is brand new. The house in your example is prime for someone to put 25% down, have a $2000 month mortgage, and make $2400 in rent. That extra $400 covers maintenance, capex and vacancy.

    So to answer your question, YES you are wrong. You can still BRRRR in this market but not when you're looking at a class A house that could rent for $2400 tomorrow.

     Can you share numbers of a hypothetical deal that does work?
    Buy - $X ??

    Rehab - $Y ??

    Rent - $Z ??