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All Forum Posts by: Evan Rice

Evan Rice has started 5 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Sober Living Home Opportunities

Evan Rice
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  • Denver, CO
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Any sober living investors out there willing to let me pick their brain on how to underwrite a potential deal?

Post: Sober Living Facility Investing - how to get started

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Hi! What are the best resources / tools to get connected/educated on this type of asset?

Post: Benefits of buying / living / renting / holding

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  • Denver, CO
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thx Kayla! We intended to rent it out (thats been one of our investment models) but the timing, which resulted in the crazy rental demand, was purely coincidental.

Post: Benefits of buying / living / renting / holding

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Great point! I think we'll probably hold this one for a long time (unless something changes) because of how it performs + its location then do a 1031. Avoiding those cap gains is key. thx for the note!

Post: Benefits of buying / living / renting / holding

Evan Rice
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Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $641,500
Cash invested: $50,000

We lived in this property for about 2 years then rented it for $4200/month to long term renters. Our timing when we listed for rent could not have been better. We listed for rent in July and were SHOCKED by the amount of rental demand in this specific sub-market. We had to host an open house for renters and ended up renting for $4200 with renters paying for all utilities. Cash flow is ~$1k per month.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

the location in one of the most popular neighborhoods in Denver and future rental demand.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

MLS and I negotiated it myself.

How did you finance this deal?

Conventional financing

How did you add value to the deal?

interior paint + built a 2 car garage

What was the outcome?

we got to live in an awesome house in an awesome neighborhood for 2 years then we moved out and rented it. COC return is 13%+ and cap rate is ~6.5%.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I think i could have negotiated the deal better on the front end; more seller concessions, etc.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

I negotiated the deal myself and worked with Joe Selander at Edge Home Finance.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-selander/

Post: Why buy now vs why wait to buy multi-family?

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  • Denver, CO
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Quote from @Remy Piazza:

Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. 

- Warren Buffet

LOVE This and i say it often. 

Post: Why buy now vs why wait to buy multi-family?

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Quote from @Justin Moy:

I think investors are always 'buying' but it just depends on how many deals they're buying and how intently they're looking. 

I'm sure if your investor friend had a deal brought to them that fit their buy box and had the returns they're looking for...they'd buy it if they had the cash. 

But, it's a matter of competing at certain prices. I think multifamily right now is seeing too low of cap rates, at least for our buying strategy. 

So we're 'buying', but we're not making nearly as many offers as we have in the past.


 Justin! I feel ya. Not many savvy investors like yourself get excited about 5.5-6 caps in KC or other similar markets. And I don't blame them. From my perspective, in order to justify making an offer the numbers still need to work but I'd also LOVE for the deal to be in an area that is poised to POP with appreciation in the near future (like those 6plexes in KC 😁). Cheers man! Hopefully we can connect when I'm out there later this year. TBD on when that will be.

Post: Why buy now vs why wait to buy multi-family?

Evan Rice
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  • Denver, CO
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Quote from @Alecia Loveless:

@Evan Rice I’m buying but am currently in a bit of a holding pattern as I’m working to reposition my latest purchase, (1 week ago), and get started on the work needed there and get the management in place to get it turned around.

Deals are coming online in my area but not all of them are good cash flowing deals. I’m also looking for something for a relative that I’ll be managing for them as their market has gotten too expensive with huge tax increases.

I think now’s as good a time as I’m still in a lot of markets to continue buying as long as your deals still make sense according to your strategy.


 Thx Alecia! What markets are you buying in?

Post: Why buy now vs why wait to buy multi-family?

Evan Rice
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  • Denver, CO
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Quote from @Konstantin Ginzburg:

I am currently not buying but mostly because I had bought a lot in the previous 2 years so I'm not in the rebuilding liquid capital phase. Prior to 6 months ago, I had been aggressively buying the previous 18 months because I had anticipated inflation would rise (guess I was right) and I viewed real estate as a safer investing that would grow my net-worth with high inflation speeding up the process in conjunction with the low interest rates that were available then. I was still always very cautious and particular about which properties I did invest in. 

As for now: I think we have seen the worst of inflation and I also think that interest rates will likely remain at where they are now for the foreseeable future (I'm personally hoping they go back down in the coming years but that's impossible to predict). Having said that, if I had cash to invest with right now, I would buy more multifamilies in the current market but I would not feel any rush to do so. If the right deal comes along that I think would be worth it, then I would jump on it but at the same time, I'd feel very comfortable walking away from a deal I wasn't completely happy with. I'm not too concerned about interest rates because if the deal cash flows, then it cash flows and I can always increase the cash flow in the future with a refinance if interest rates go back down. I think there they may still be a bit more of a pricing correction for real estate coming but there is also a strong possibility that real estate prices will resume rising in the near future due to continued supply shortages (although they are highly unlikely to resume rising again at the rate they had been throughout 2021). Even if the prices do correct further though, I wouldn't be concerned since rental prices have historically increased even during periods when property values decreased so as long as I don't intend on selling the property, the currently appraised value of a property I own doesn't affect me. Even though real estate dips, historically it has increased over the long-term so as long as I am willing to hold the property for at least 5 years, the probability of me needing to short sell a property is very low unless I really really really overpaid for the property. I think deals can be found in any market, just need to be selective and not rush into a deal. I'm a fan of the mantra: "time in the market is better than timing the market"


 I don't disagree with anything here. When you buy it right its never a bad time to buy. Maybe more conservative/picky with your criteria, as you alluded to, but I love your reasoning. Thank you, Konstantin.

Post: Why buy now vs why wait to buy multi-family?

Evan Rice
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  • Denver, CO
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Quote from @Hunter Reed:

There is a wise old saying that goes "It's not about timing the market but rather time in the market". Get started now!


LOVE this quote. I wish someone would have told me this MUCH earlier in my career. Thx Hunter!