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All Forum Posts by: Eric Upchurch

Eric Upchurch has started 9 posts and replied 51 times.

Post: CA Usury Apply for OOS Investment?

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53

Hey everyone. I have a question about a deal I'm considering.

I live in CA and want to lend money to a rehabber out of state (MD). If I invested, say $100K at 15% for 6 months, with promissory note, will I be penalized for making more than 10%?

I know there are other threads on BP related, but they seem outdated and I don't see any clear answers for this scenario. I have also asked my CPA (waiting to hear back) and called a RE lawyer today who said the rules/usury limitations should apply to MD laws, not CA since the deal is OOS. But I just don't want to get caught up in anything illegal or that would cause a steep fine since I'm a CA resident.

Thanks.

Post: Private money lending and CA usury law

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53
Originally posted by @Will Barnard:

One final thought: Usury laws are exempt in CA and many other states if a licensed broker is involved in the transaction.

 What if I live in CA and lend on a project in MD - to a broker from MD (who also is the one BRRRRing the deal)? Still limited to 10% or since he's "involved" in the transaction, will that work? Thanks!

Post: Bigger pockets T shirts?

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53
Please make sure they are the soft, thin, more modern style shirts if you do it at all. Thick, cheap shirts don't get worn. Just my opinion anyway. Can't wait!

Post: Bigger pockets T shirts?

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53
Joshua Dorkin any update on shirts? Talk about multiple streams of income! You've got some demand here. It's like Realtors wearing the little "R" lapel pin. These shirts will allow us to connect in public. Cmon, man! Brandon Turner

Post: How to BRRRR beyond 10 loans

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53
Can anyone explain this? I have great credit and plenty of cash, so getting the first four are not a problem, then loans 5-10 (even the refi "R" in BRRRR mortgages) I understand to use a portfolio lender (would love someone to PM me some specific lenders please). Even if I can recycle my cash with BRRRR, am I still constrained to 10 loans when I refi? How do I take this to 100 doors if I can only get 10 loans? 1031 into LARGER units? Pay off one loan to get another? Feel like I'm missing a major piece of the puzzle. Thanks for any input. Some of you are real pros so I'd love to hear it, step by step, from you. Huge help as I continue to grow.

Post: KC Turnkey Experience

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53

BP,

I've been contemplating writing this for a while now, but after the dust settled on my recent purchase from Bridge Turnkey in KC, I thought it's time to share. I'll try to be brief. No, never mind, I can see already that's going to be tough. Plus, you need details!

We have been "live-in flipping" in the SF Bay Area since 2012 to build capital for future investments. First house was a "duet" where I used a second, simultaneous VA loan (since the CoL is so high here they DO allow it!). I still own my first home from when I was in the Army waaaay back in 2010 :), but that's not much of an "investment". I lived in it for 4 years with my wife and newborn - didn't make sense to sell it since I put zero down.

Now, after 4.5 years of buying, minor/mid-level rehabbing, then selling for a profit, we've managed to get to a point where we can start the ball rolling towards our long-term goal, which is primarily buy and hold RE. If you are like me and have a fulltime day job (that you actually like or don't want/need to leave anytime soon), but want to get started "investing", live-in flipping could be a really great option for you. But you have to have a spouse who's willing to make several moves AND it helps to have kids who are not school-age yet (which was my case most of the time). You could also "house hack", depending on your living situation, location/market, kids, spouse, whatever.

Anyway, here's the basics of my first TK investment, fully rehabbed:

3 bed, 2 bath "bread and butter" house just North of KC.

PP: $149,900

Cash to close: $32,152 (deposit, down, closing fees, etc. - conventional loan)

Net profit (after PITIPM): $490/month

Cash on Cash Return: 18.2%*

*Please save all the comments about how it's not actually 18% CoC because I didn't include vacancy, repairs, CapEx, etc. I get all that. The home was nearly gutted, so CapEx will likely be little. New roof, new A/C, furnace, windows, appliances, garage doors and anything else that did not have at least a 10-year life span. It also has a 2-year lease in place with someone who has a 730 FICO. PLUS, like any good investor should, I put a CapEx fund in a separate account and I'm also not planning to take any of the profits - they're to be reinvested while I'm still working full time.

Things I love about Bridge (no, I was NOT paid for this, just sharing my story):

 - Under-promised, over-delivered. I was ok with the numbers at the advertised $1,395/month expected rent, but they locked it down for $1,495! Good 'ol 1% rule and a heck of a nice surprise to me!

 - Full rehab. Good quality.

 - Appraised for $155,000 (more than I paid) - so overpaying was not an issue as it could be for some TK (so I've heard)

 - Tenant in place by closing, or they would pay my first month’s rent (first contract only obviously)

 - 2-year lease

 - Weekly updates while rehab was happening. Team was a phone call away if I had questions.

 - In-house PM. Have an annual inspection program "Bridge 360" (free or paid, depending on how many you want)

 - In-house construction crew. Nice to have a full-time GC, I'd imagine.

 - After my independent inspection, they fixed all the items that were found to be faulty - yes, they did. They sent a spreadsheet that outlined each fault, with the repair in another column.

 - There are probably some I'm missing so I may have to update later.

Will I be buying more properties from Bridge? Based on this first experience, any chance I can duplicate this I will. I'm also encouraging my mother, father (both nearing retirement age) and "investor-minded" friends to do the same. Once I have 6 properties, the profit alone from those 6 will buy another rental each year.

While TK might not be for everyone, it's certainly one strategy that can provide great returns if you need to be hands-off. Bridge Turnkey has done a great job making it streamlined, simple and DOABLE. I'd still recommend evaluating each property to make sure the return fits YOUR comfort level, but I'm pretty sure Bridge is aware of what their clients want. I would definitely recommend them to anyone looking for turnkey properties.

Let me know if you have questions, please. My passion and purpose in life is to educate others and to help people grow! Love it.

Eric

PS. I’m also investing some of my money in large syndication deals, tax liens, first trust deeds, private lending – this TK purchase was the most fun and I'm really hoping to get into multi-family very soon. Hey, how about MF turnkey @Nathan Brooks?

Post: House paid off, want to take out cash to invest - help?

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53

Thanks @Ariel Smith. Do you or does anyone else know how a HELOC works at least? Definitely going to talk to my local bank, but have just never done a HELOC or cash out refi. Maybe I should just search forums for "HELOC". I'm sure there are hundreds of forums already.

Post: House paid off, want to take out cash to invest - help?

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53

Thanks, Thomas, but we currently live in the home - have for years. Selling is not an option a this point.

Post: House paid off, want to take out cash to invest - help?

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53

Thinking about taking $250k out of a house I just inherited (with two siblings) in the SF Bay Area

to invest in RE. Can anyone tell me what strategy I should/could use? HELOC? Cash out refinance? Other?

Any issues I should be aware of? Thanks team!

Post: Turnkey Home inspection advice for a newbie

Eric UpchurchPosted
  • Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 53
Closing on my first TK on Friday. All of my inspection items - especially safety stuff - were taken care of! I'm also a CA (Bay Area) investor. Not sure I'd close until most of that was taken care of. PM me if you want to chat more.