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All Forum Posts by: Eric Turner

Eric Turner has started 6 posts and replied 59 times.

Post: Anyone Have Experience in Marysville?

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35

@Kirsten Crotts

There is a ton of crime and homelessness. Lived here on and off my whole life. It's always been bad, it's been really bad the last few years.

I live in a nice neighborhood here and my neighbor was just shot in a drug robbery a week or two ago. Cars broken into a few times. Stolen once

I'm shocked the prices are as high as they are. It's really a dump of a town in my opinion. We are moving asap.

Post: Anyone Have Experience in Marysville?

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35

I saw an updated 1288 sqft rambler duplex rent for $1575.

Inventory is slim, but not absent for 2 bedrooms. I think $2k is a stretch. $1600-$1800 is probably a more reasonable expectation. Just my $.02.

Post: Snohomish County Meet ups?

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35

@Brian Powers

There was one in Marysville a couple months ago. I missed it. I found it on meetup. Haven't seen anything since.

I am down to start a new one if we get enough interest. If you arent a member of the WArei Facebook group, you could post over there. Like 9k active local members, though most are down south.

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Rodney Sipes:

@Eric Turner

I would be careful with ETFs, they are almost always bullish market plays and this peak will not last much longer. Also be sure the REITs you choose are anchored by real property. Sometimes they are property adjace.

I invest strictly in the big vanguard ETFs.

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Rodney Sipes:

@Eric Turner

Hello Eric,

Have you considered passive investing in a syndication and learning that business from the inside out. You could also supplement that education with some reading while you earn money in your sleep and on weekends without having done any of the actual work yourself.

I have looked into fundrise and one other one that I can't remember right now. I didn't really see them being better than stable coins with interest rates over 8% or ETFs around 7% and REITs around 8%. I just think I like those better for hands off investments personally.

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Kristopher Kyzar:

@Eric Turner there are so many options you could choose from when you have motivation and some capital to play with.  I will say that when I was in your situation, I decided to partner on a few deals with some investors already doing what I wanted to do.  I went into the deal with the plan to be the financial partner while they did the heavy lifting and we split the profit 50/50 on the end.  I was able to accomplish 4 deals like this before I started working my own angle.  I've also done marketing for motivated sellers by hiring a company that generates and runs my online campaigns (facebook) while I manage the communications/negotiations/deal closure.  I would steer away from the guru model.  Later down the road when you feel like you're doing well, some coaching/masterminding could be beneficial.

I have had a bad experience with a previous partnership in a business. It would take a heck of a person and deal for me to ever partner up again unfortunately. I just do not know anyone well enough that does this sort of thing. Maybe in a couple years after I have built some longer term relationships.

As far as guru stuff goes. I definitely am not looking for a guru, I don't think the class I was trying to take really counts. For one the cost is pretty freaking low at $2k with no further upsell. And there are a lot of people that seemingly respect this person and have taken the class. It is basically just a crash course in finding your first deal with a money back guarantee if you don't. I am probably going to take the class even if I do a deal first. Just because of the money back guarantee, I literally have nothing to lose.

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Logan Jorns:

Have you ever thought about partnering up with an experienced investor? Like in Brandon Turner's deal delta analogy, there's 3 three components to REI: knowledge, hustle, money. With you bringing to the table the money, you could find someone who has the knowledge & hustle to form a partnership and put your cash to use. Would love to connect!

Definitely have. I have had coffee with one local investor a couple days ago. And meeting with another tomorrow for coffee and I am also part of a local real estate facebook group. I am VERY wary of partnerships though. I started a business out of college with a family member and it pretty much destroyed the relationship, the business and of course my view on partnerships (he was using company funds for personal expenses and felt justified because he thought he was putting in more than me). 

But if the right situation came along with the right person I would do it. But it would probably have to be like a one in a million connection to full combine money and partner. But the things I am discussing with the local investors are situations where I put up the money for the campaign and they do the cold calling and things like that. If they don't hold up their end of the bargain, I am not out anything as I just do the calling myself. They don't get anything if we do not close deals so sort of a partnership? But if I close a deal without their help they do not get any money. The risk I guess is they do the deal behind my back.

And then also potentially partnering with local agents to send sellers that way if they decide to go the MLS route. And in turn they let me know about any off market deals they know of.

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Kevin Romines:

Okay, here is my take having been a lender for the last 25 years. 

His stated goal is to get to a point where he has enough cash flowing properties that throws off $4000.00 a month in cashflow. Presuming, so he can quit his job and go full time into real estate. He has between $50K - $100k he can put into this to get it off the ground. That said, this will not be an over night type thing, rather this will take a few years to get to the point where it could do this?

My best advice is that you will need at least $300K to put into this to get enough cash flowing properties to throw off $4000.00 per month. How do you take your nest egg and grow it enough to be at $300K. Well you flip properties. The average flip in my area is getting $45K to $100K in profit, not counting taxes. You would need to do 4 to 7 flips to have enough after tax profit to get your nest egg to 300K. 

Once you have done these flips, you then will buy 11 single family properties that you will use the BRRRR method to buy low, rehab, rent, refinance and repeat. if you are cash flowing $363.00 per door, which you should easily do after your rehab, then you will finally have your $4000.00 in cash flow.

So in the end, how long will it take you to buy, rehab & flip the 1st 4 to 7 and then additionally, how long to buy, rehab, rent, refinance and repeat then next 11 properties? I know professional flippers that can do that in as little as 2 years. However newbies, it could take 5-6 years. I would set out a conservative time frame and then methodically take the steps to get there. 

You might want to partner with an experience flipper for the first 1 or 2. Use their knowledge to fast track your learning curve. Be careful who you choose, it could go bad, at which point you would have to rebuild from a bad spot.

I would also seriously consider getting your realtor license. This will help in all aspects of this journey.  

I hope this helps?

It does help. Thank you

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35

@Matthew Crivelli interesting. Thanks for sharing. We have Valpak here too.

Post: I have $50k cash ready to invest and $50k in liquid assets.

Eric TurnerPosted
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Melody R.:

@Albert Martin After reading your post and responses, it seems like mindset may be in your way. Start telling yourself you can do it and you will do it. There are ways to house hack in pricey markets and with kids. You also mention that you’re paying below market rent and you don’t want to give that up to buy. Three years ago when you started looking you wrote the market has appreciated a lot. Has that appreciation outpaced your rent savings? Look at the math to help you make your decision. Yes, you may have to sacrifice some square footage when you start owning but what’s more important to you, building wealth or having a bigger apartment even if that means you are renting? Whatever your answer is, it’s okay. You just have to decide and act accordingly.

I second what others have already expressed. I personally would not invest in paying a mentor or spend $12K on marketing, at this point. Get free help, search the MLS, get a great realtor, and put that money into a deal.

We actually started looking 5 years ago lol. But our preapproved amount was lower than the markets we were shopping back then so we took 2 years and saved (and hoped for a correction), then we started looking again. And then stopped looking again and rented this SFR that we are in now. The appreciation has most likely outpaced our cash savings. I am not 100% sure. But it is probably close if we bought a 300k house it is probably worth $450k now and that is about how much we have saved in the last 3 years as well including 401ks and everything.

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Specifically says to do mailers if you have money to start with. I have no idea why everyone is so against them in this thread. Like it has been a tried and true method for decades and is probably the easiest and most cost effective way to find deals. $12k is only 3 months savings for us. Even if I find 0 deals, it isn't the end of the world but at $12k I am sending something like 30,000 mailers to 2000 qualified leads with 6 touches each. At a 0.1% success rate would be 2 deals and would surely recoup all my money and possibly show some profit.