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All Forum Posts by: Elizabeth Nolan

Elizabeth Nolan has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

Quote from @Evan Polaski:

@Elizabeth Nolan, I certainly don't know your area, but I only see two items on your list that could potentially add any real value.

Patio space: this only applies if there is not already any type of outdoor living space.  I would not run a gas line, unless you are already out there doing work and adding the gas line only adds a couple hundred dollars to cost, at most.  

Enlarging master bath: again, this depends on the size of the bedroom itself and still being functional in its smaller format. If you downsize the bedroom to a point that buyers can't fit a king size bed with night stands, I would not do it. But if there is ample room in the bedroom and you can take a single sink to double vanity, or add a dedicated water closet, or take a 3x3 shower into a 3x5 or larger, making the bathroom more luxurious, than I could see a good ROI on that.

While the area may be very nice, the price point you are talking (and I don't know the specific market) is borderline starter home prices. If your only goal is ROI, then clean it up, put decent, but not high end, finishes in, and call it a day. Anything more is almost always done out of ego not out of maximized profit.


 Ego … ouch! The truth hurts! I build things to a higher grade than I necessarily should for the image I think it projects of myself to the world. 

On patio space - there’s a deck across the front of the house that’s not more than 8 feet deep and not particularly useful for anything but maybe a bistro set or a pair of chairs. I think connecting that deck down just a step or two to a gravel patio could really expand the feel of the house size. 

Quote from @Mike Terry:

This is very ambitious!!! Have you considered bringing on a partner with experience in luxury flips. If I were in your shoes, I would start with a more basic project. My best projects are usually taking a dated home and cleaning it up with interior cosmetic renovations. I always stay away from anything that is a personal choice that one buyer may love an another not care for. Always remember budgets always balloon as do time lines. The bigger the project the greater potential to get off track. It looks like you have a healthy spread from purchase to ARV. I would look at your wish list here and pare it down to necessities to make the project clean bright and sellable. Things like moving electrical panels and specialty mechanicals may not return what you hope for. The biggest impact will be interior paint, trim and doors, upgraded fixtures, bathrooms and kitchens. That is where I would concentrate. Just some random thoughts as I read your post. Best of luck with your project.

Mike -thanks for taking the time to respond. You make such a good point about concentrating on paint, trim, doors, etc …

I do this all the time with my rentals - I build to a level I’d want if I was living there, not necessarily what the rent could justify in finishes.

I’ve got some issues that are far more important to tackle before the luxury fliers I might take. 
Quote from @Kiernan LaFaver:

As far as ROI, there are a few givens that will always give the majority or even dollar for dollar back, such as landscaping, flooring, updated kitchen and bathrooms, and security systems. Those are always a huge YES. In my personal opinion, I wouldn't be as worried with some of the niche items, like a surround sound system, smart features, sauna. I work with a lot of buyers and most of the times they do not care about these items. I've noticed some demographics, such as older generations, don't necessarily care for all of the bells and whistles. I do agree that mechanical upgrades are a good idea if necessary, those are almost always a safe bet for ROI and resale-ability. It seems like landscaping/exterior is a large aspect of this property, so in that case I would put a good chunk of my efforts there

Thank you for the feedback. I can especially see older buyers not necessarily valuing or even wanting the smart features. It’s interesting you list security systems … is there a type you recommend? In the house I live in with my family we have a Ring system and it never gets turned on. How about motion sensors on a long driveway with a chime in the house?

I've done pretty well investing in multifam rentals and I've got friends that always say things like "when are you going to let me in on some of your deals?" ... I've never really needed to because I've always had enough money to fund things myself but I am shifting into flipping and land development and new builds. 

If I were to take money from family and friends, how is it best to structure it? Is it an open-end fund? Does it exist only for one acquisition and sale? Are there buyouts or bail periods negotiated and written before beginning. None of these people would need the money back in less than 5 years. 

This will be my first flip and I have questions on ROI.

As background, it's a 1400 sq ft ranch in a very desirable area where homes typically fetch $500/ft+ after rehab or new build. Just to use round numbers, I'm buying for about $250k and plan on putting about $200k into renovations and an ARV around $660k. This will be an architecturally interesting building on 2+ acres with power gate at the road and fairly long driveway that sets the house out of sight from the road.

As far as positive ROI - I'd like feedback on the following items:

-Switching to tankless hot water heater (current water heater doesn't look so hot)

-Upgrading electric panel to a Span Smart Panel. I think there's already 200 amp service in the building.

-Relocating the electric panel out of a guest room and into the mechanical room. 

-Sauna

-Hot Tub

-Patio/courtyard (large cement tiles on crushed bluestone with lighting, natural gas line to bbq)

-Secondary patio off primary suite

-Losing sq feet in the primary bedroom to enlarge the bathroom

-High grade cabinets

-Appliances with cabinet fronts

-High end appliances (Viking/Miele instead of GE Cafe)

-Outdoor shower (teak box walls with a dry well beneath the footprint)

-Wiring for Cat6 to every room

-Wiring for surround speakers (or including the speakers that are built into the walls)

-Sonos whole-home audio system

-Hardwired cameras (with on-site storage) to the exterior of the house

-Smart features: thermostats are a given, but how about light fixtures, switches, aromatherapy, fans ... anything else?

-Landscape lighting (It's a long driveway ... lighting on it? lighting up the house?)

Any/all thoughts on these points or some others that have great ROI will be appreciated. Thank you!

Post: 203k Loans on Long Island

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Quote from @Philip Roedig:

hey @Chris Mignone, I too was looking for lenders that specialize in 203k loans on Long Island as a mean to fund my next investment property.  Ive contacted local banks and mortgage lenders but have only found one that offers the 203 loan(freedom mortgage).  However when I spoke with the representative they said it would be there first time .  I will most likely proceed with them but would love to know if you know of any expericed lenders on the Island. Thanks!


 I used Freedom (then called Continental) to buy my first multi Fam house hack back in 2011/2p12. They are no strangers to 203k loans. Perhaps it was just the person you got on the phone that had never done a 203k. I will say that Freedom was much better back then. Their new process is to hand you off to a loan processor as quickly as possible and it’s really on you whether anything happens.