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All Forum Posts by: Elijah Williamson

Elijah Williamson has started 23 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Question about shopping for lenders in Alberta.

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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Hey guys, I'm currently looking for lenders but had a question before I begin. I assumed that once I start contacting said lenders, I would have 30 days from the first credit check to shop around without worrying about my credit score going down with subsequent credit checks from other lenders. My agent asked if I've been pre-approved yet but after telling her I was building a list, she told I shouldn't due each credit check bringing down my score.

Have I been misinformed? If so, anyone have a good investor lender they could recommend? If not, I'd still like recommendations so feel free to share.

Post: Discussion on investing in "sleepy towns." Is it worth it?

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Steven Silman:

Hi @Elijah Williamson, I've owned in both big cities and small towns for years, places with tons of appreciation and others with not that much. In my experience, the biggest issues with owning in a small place are sourcing good property management/trades, getting good financing and exiting. More than likely your appreciation will be significantly lower than in a larger community but as long as you go in aware of that, if overall it makes sense to you then you should go for it. Good luck!

 I've found PM's in all the towns I looked which is where I get my rent estimates. It's true that the picking are slim and most are inexperienced compared to larger markets but they are there. They are probably my biggest concern however. I'd prefer to have a PM instead of self managing and if I ever move or the current PM isn't working out, I'd be left in a tight spot.

Post: Discussion on investing in "sleepy towns." Is it worth it?

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Brianne H.:

@Elijah Williamson I think you're onto something if you plan to stay in the area. If not, property management might with a little different but wouldn't be impossible. I'm pretty sure there was a podcast about a lady in I want to say Saskatoon area? She was doing very well in her market. I'm a little East of Calgary where prices start to come down a bit, but in all honesty I hadn't looked into rural areas very much because of the issues you mentioned, but the price point is better. Where did you find most of those example deals, on the MLS or privately?

Actually I found quite a few through the MLS but I use Kijiji quite a bit too. There's usually a handful of places for sale by owner. The example above with the 3 houses for $100k was from there. Facebook occasionally has some good deals too. Haven't had any luck with craigslist, I'm not sure if it's just more common in the US or it's just my area.

Post: Discussion on investing in "sleepy towns." Is it worth it?

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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Hi, my name's Elijah and I'm a new investor who has yet to do my first deal. I was born and raised in rural Alberta/Saskatchewan, Canada. I've lived in small towns most of life with populations ranging from 10 people-5,000 people. I currently live in a small town of 1,000 people. I love the rural lifestyle and the sense of community it brings however I'd like to discuss the pros and cons of investing in such small towns as I'm currently struggling with the thought of doing it.

Whenever I talk to another investor from Canada, I ask what markets they like and invest in. Usually I get the same answer. Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, and of course, Toronto. Toronto is by far the most mentioned and at the same time the most complained about. Everyone wants to invest there but can't afford it and hates the headache. When I ask why not try other markets, maybe smaller towns or cities, I'm usually told "there's no money outside these markets." yet at the same I time they brag about their great deal in Toronto that's giving the 0.05% back and that the 1% rule is impossible in these markets. I understand there's equity to be had there unlike these small towns but there's no cashflow. As someone starting out, I can't afford to pay a $1,000 mortgage every month while I wait for equity.

I'm personally renting a house right now as it made sense for me a few years ago. Currently however, I'm in the process of trying to buy one. My options are very much limited as there's probably around 100 houses for sale within a 50km radius from me but it seems I can still make at least a quarter if not half of them work well, either as a primary residence, house hack, or investment property. Again, equity isn't here but cashflow is. Some of the better examples are as follows.


-Double wide trailer, new appliance but outdated style (aluminum windows, shag carpet, yellow toilet/tubs. etc) 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, attached double car garage. She wanted $70k for it as it was an estate deal (grandfathers house, he passed away and it passed to her). Rents for $900 a month.

-3 house for sale by owner, willing to do rent to own. All 3 needed some rehab but has was asking $100k for them. That's $33k each. Each one had tenets in them paying $700-$800 a month.


-8 condos, all foreclosures, all 35k each. All needed new flooring and a cleaning/paint job. 2 needed some drywall repair. Rents were $1000-$1,200 a month.

-Bungalow with downstairs suite. Everything works but is outdated. $120k asking price. Rents for $1,500. 
 

These are a few of the better deals I've seen so far. These are all asking price and most are motived sellers so negotiating lower prices seems very plausible. The drawbacks I've found so far is that market appreciation takes a long time, vacancy can be a bit long (1-4 months), and holding costs can add up as the average DoM can sometimes be high (100-300 days) however, I've also noticed from talking with local landlords that once you have tenet, they tend to stay for while as it's a small town and we small town folk don't move often. This aligns with my own relationship with small town occupants. I know people who have rented the same house for 10+ years. Pride of ownership seems to be much more common as well as everyone knows everyone in small communities and you don't want to be known as a slob or have an eviction as everyone will know and won't rent to you.

I've read David Greene's Long Distance Real Estate and I highly recommend it whether or not you plan on investing long distance but I'm personally stuck between where I should go with my career. Everyone says to invest in the bigger markets. Everyone says to not invest in small towns (less then 5,000 people) yet I see landlords in these town with anywhere from 2-15 houses making great cashflow. Markets like Calgary or Edmonton seem flooded with investors that already have a good track record. The agents and wholesalers I've talked to don't want to stray from them as their "sure things." but in my small town of 1,000 people, I'm already know as "The real estate guy" or "The investor guy" and I haven't even done a deal yet. I'm number 20 or 30 in those other markets but number 1 here.

So, I want to pass the question to you guys. What do you guys think about investing in small towns. Is it something you've explored? What did you learn? Do you think it's a wise starting point? I'd love to hear from the BP community on this.

Post: New investor looking into Condos.

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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  • Posts 38
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Owen Langis:

Check to see the financials on the building to see if there are any major issues with the building that will need to be fixed.

This could be a massive expense x8 units and could easily sink you.

Not uncommon to see that a building is mismanaged and has zero cash to fix the problems.

 I don't have anything to back this up and I'm not sure how I can but the other "proof" I have is their word that their reserve is healthy. How would I double check this?

Post: New investor looking into Condos.

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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  • Posts 38
  • Votes 13

As a new investor who also doesn't know much about condominiums, I'm looking for some advice on this deal. There are 8 units available out of a total of 100. All foreclosures. Most of them are in pretty decent shape, needing some paint (I'm a painter by trade) and some flooring. The worst one needs new doors, a deep clean as it smells horrible, and paint/patching. Six units are 2 bedroom, 1 bath and two are 3 bedroom, 1 bath. Condo fees include the roofs, windows, exterior siding, and snow/lawn care. Landlord is responsible for everything inside (appliances, cabinets, walls, flooring, toilets, furnace, hot water heater, etc.) They're in the lower income part of town but it's not saying much as it's a smaller town with low crime rate. The only PM I'm looking to work with typically charges 10%. I'm hoping she'll go lower if I get these but I want to know if they're even worth it.

Asking price is $46,000 a unit. As they're foreclosures, the bank wants them gone quickly. Would it be wise of me to ask $30,000-$35,000 for each unit if I got all eight? I don't think the numbers work at $46,000 but maybe I'm missing something? 

2 bedroom, 1 bath units rent for $795 a month, condo fees are $245 a month.

3 bedroom, 1 bath units rent for $950 a month, condo fees are $295 a month.

I'm in Alberta, Canada if that helps any.

Post: New investor in need of advice.

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
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  • Posts 38
  • Votes 13

I've been following BP for about a year now and have yet to do a deal. I live in rural Alberta, Canada. A few days ago I got a tip from a friend that someone in my small town of about 2,000 people that someone want's to sell her land. It has two mobile trailer homes on it currently, each paying $150 a month for land rental and room for 6 more trailers. She's asking $35,000 for these 2 acres.

My main issue is I wasn't planning on investing here as vacancy can sometimes be high and there aren't many renters around. Most houses here are up for sale for over 2 years here. My friend wants to go 50/50 on this deal and then buy trailers to move out here are rent. We worked out the cost and it's about $15,000-$20,000 a trailer. The other option is to sell the land instead. She's only asking $35,000 and my friend is convinced it's worth more then double that. My fear is even if it's worth $70,000-$80,000 I don't know if it will sell. Houses take 2 years to sell here. I'm really being pushed to make a decision as my partner wants to move quickly on this but can't do it without me. If I do this, I lose my down payment  for a potential rental house.

As someone with little to no real world experience in investing, is there something I'm not seeing here? Are my fears unfounded? Should I or should I not do this deal? What should I do to cover my bases and make the best decision? 

Post: New investor in need of advice.

Elijah WilliamsonPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 13

I've been following BP for about a year now and have yet to do a deal. I live in rural Alberta, Canada. A few days ago I got a tip from a friend that someone in my small town of about 2,000 people that someone want's to sell her land. It has two mobile trailer homes on it currently, each paying $150 a month for land rental and room for 6 more trailers. She's asking $35,000 for these 2 acres.

My main issue is I wasn't planning on investing here as vacancy can sometimes be high and there aren't many renters around. Most houses here are up for sale for over 2 years here. My friend wants to go 50/50 on this deal and then buy trailers to move out here are rent. We worked out the cost and it's about $15,000-$20,000 a trailer. The other option is to sell the land instead. She's only asking $35,000 and my friend is convinced it's worth more then double that. My fear is even if it's worth $70,000-$80,000 I don't know if it will sell. Houses take 2 years to sell here. I'm really being pushed to make a decision as my partner wants to move quickly on this but can't do it without me. If I do this, I lose my down payment  for a potential rental house.

As someone with little to no real world experience in investing, is there something I'm not seeing here? Are my fears unfounded? Should I or should I not do this deal? What should I do to cover my bases and make the best decision?