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All Forum Posts by: Erin Estes

Erin Estes has started 22 posts and replied 143 times.

Post: How to move out of my personal residence and keep it as a rental and purchase next house

Erin Estes
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Goodyear, AZ
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 59
Originally posted by @Alexander Merritt:

@Erin Estes 

Have you been talking with big banks? I know most of the big banks have these rediculous seasoning requirements. 2 years?? c'mon give me a break.

Smaller banks will be more willing to work with you and might consider adding rent income immediately or after 6 months. I just spoke with NAVY Federal who said they would include it right away, but only a certain percentage of the rent (70% i think). You'll want to have a tenant in place with signed agreement that you can show to the bank.

I think it might be difficult to find a HML (hard money lender) when asking for a 2 year interest only loan. Most HMLs I've heard about do very short loans. Typically 6 months or sometimes 1 year with the right deal.

You might be able to use HM for the initial purchase of property B, sell property A to your LLC through a commercial/portfolio loan, and then rate and term refi property B either immediately or after 6 months. I think you'll want to have property A off your credit report before trying to refi B with the bank so you can qualify.

I've never attempted this before so I don't know if this is the right strategy.

Thank you so much! This helps tremendously! I had heard that it takes two years of seasoning before rental income would count toward mortgage qualifying, but it looks like I need to investigate that more! It looks like I have more options than I originally thought :) 70% would be enough, I think for us to make it work. Maybe I could get a new VA with property B and get a conventional refi with property A if they'd consider rental income. Thanks for the response!

Post: How to move out of my personal residence and keep it as a rental and purchase next house

Erin Estes
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Goodyear, AZ
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 59

Ok, that's good information!! So, instead, what if we were to take out a new VA on property B and then take out a hard money loan on property A until it's seasoned enough to get conventional financing?

Post: How to move out of my personal residence and keep it as a rental and purchase next house

Erin Estes
Posted
  • Realtor
  • Goodyear, AZ
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 59

"Property A" is my single family home that my family lives in. We bought it HUD owned in January 2013 with a VA and it has a 3.125% interest rate. It's also got about $60,000 +/- worth of equity in it. I could rent it for $1,400 and our piti mortgage is just over $1,000. 4/3, 3 car, 2446 sqft.
"Property B" is our subject property we'd like to purchase.  It is currently a short sale at $350,000 but with the work it needs it'll probably go for around $320,000 or less or go through foreclosure before the bank will be willing to sell it at that price.  5/3.5, 2.5 car, 3673 sqft.

What I'd like to do is purchase property B, maybe with an interest-only two year loan from a hard money lender (or some other hard money loan) and rent out property A. Then, when property A is seasoned and I have two year's landlording experience under my belt (so the banks will count my rental income as income to back a mortgage), refinance property A with new long-term financing and refinance property B with a VA loan (or whichever loan would give me the best interest rate). Could I, should I, use a blanket loan? What would my options be to pull this off? What other types of mortgages could I use in this scenario? Also, at what point could I/should I transfer property A into my LLC? Is that even legal? How would I go about doing this? My goal is to keep property A as a rental in my LLC while "moving up" to another good deal personally. My exit strategy for property B would be to sell (eventually), not to hold and rent, because it wouldn't have a large enough tenant pool since it is so big and higher priced... the demand for that type of house as a rental just isn't there.