Thank you all for the warm welcome! Joshua asked about why across the country. I was in Miami a couple of weeks ago on jean Norton mini weekend tour (not one of those multi $ks deals), just an intro to the area and local players (wholesales, agents,contractors Hal's etc.). I surmised very quickly that the rehabbing mkt her is not great (if I participated, I would have done it with a couple of other guys that are very experienced). But the buy and hold looks very good to me. I need income. In SF proper investing in multifamily will only yield a cap rate of 4-5%. In outlying areas of the SF Bay Area one might get up to 7%. Here I noticed that I could get 12% cap rates and with bank financing ROIs in the 30% range. Sure beats the 10 % I was getting on trust deed investments at home. I like Miami. It is the gateway to the Us for Latin America, and lots of europeans and asians flock here too. So that is the lengthy reply as to why across the country. I will hopefully find a good property manager and I will also have a reason to come to Florida from time to time. Frank