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All Forum Posts by: Edward Schenkel

Edward Schenkel has started 7 posts and replied 168 times.

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Here is another useful tip for leases. Always include a provision that allows you to claim attorney's fees and court costs if you are forced into a dispute or lawsuit with a tenant. Many states, including Connecticut, do not allow a landlord to claim attorney's fees unless there is a specific provision in the lease that allows the landlord to claim attorney's fees if there is a dispute. If you do not have this in your lease, the Tenant will hold more leverage over your. If you can point to the lease and show the tenant the clause regarding attorney's fees, you will have leverage in your dispute.

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Marian Smith:

Edward Schenkel Hi, generous of you to share your expertise. What are some things landlords are sued for, besides the slip and fall type lawsuits? Eg, I offered to install a couple of swings on some large oak trees in my tenants backyard but asked them to sign a hold harmless in case one if their kids fell off and broke an arm. The parents thanked us and said the kids loved the swings. But was that kind of stupid on my part?

 @Marian Smith, thanks for the question. 

It is usually the landlord suing the tenant but sometimes it is the other way around. Sometimes a tenant will try to withhold rent or use as a defense in a lawsuit based upon something the landlord did or failed to do. Some common disputes I see are concerning the landlord failing to do his or her duties under the lease (e.g. make repairs); slip and falls by a tenant or a guest of the tenant; injuries caused by landlord's failure to properly exercise his or her duties; environmental issues at the property (typically commercial, e.g. alleged that an underground oil tank started leaking causing damage to business); disputes over the security deposit; illegal clauses in a lease; failure to reimburse the tenant for a repair he or she made; Entering a tenant's property illegally; failing to disclose environmental issues such as lead paint; or trying to evict the tenant illegally. Usually it is about the security deposit or the landlord failing to make repairs under the lease. 

With that being said, it is important to include a provision in the lease that allows you to claim attorney's fees if you have a dispute with the tenant (including eviction). This is important as many states do not allow you to claim attorney's fees unless there is a provision in the lease. 

The hold harmless agreement is another animal in itself. They need to be carefully drafted and sometimes courts hold that hold harmless / damage limitation clauses are invalid if they pertain to certain things. This area of law is state specific. Message me if you want to talk more about this. 

Ed

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Liz C.:

Edward Schenkel , is that truth if I set up a land trust I can't use the my LLC as trustee? And my other LLC as beneficial?

Also is it easy to place a property into a land trust in New York ? What's the best way to approaches .

Thank you!

@Liz C, your question is a bit of a loaded question. With respect to the LLC as a trustee - the laws are state specific. However, in states like Connecticut, where I primarily practice, you cannot simply create a LLC and make it the Trustee of a trust. There is a statute that governs the exercise of fiduciary powers of corporate trustees (other than banks) that you have to follow to give the LLC trustee powers so to speak. You cannot just create the LLC and have it serve as the trustee. In Connecticut, the LLC, before it can become a trustee, must go through a process with the State including applying for a license. If you have any specific questions about this procedure, you can message me. (also, this does not apply to an individual serving as a trustee).

Regarding having the LLC set as the beneficiary - at first blush I do not see a problem with having a LLC as a beneficiary, but it is somewhat unusual. It may vary from state to state but in CT I believe it is ok. If you end up setting this up under CT law, I would be happy to research this issue to confirm that a LLC can serve as a beneficiary but at first blush I think it is ok.

Your last question regarding setting up a land trust in NY - I am licensed in NY; however, I have only worked on land trusts in CT. In CT, it is somewhat straightforward where we set up a LLC and a Trust, and the Trust is the sole member of the LLC, However, when we set up the trust, you need to be careful that you comply with the requirements of the law. Again, if you end up setting this all up in CT, I would be happy to help you out. Does this help?

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Tom Gimer:
Originally posted by @Mitchell Westmoreland:

Hi Ed, I own a duplex in my name and I'm considering transferring it to an llc. 

Should I be concerned with "due on sale"? What are your thoughts about this clause?

Thanks!

Your investor friends may have different advice, but no attorney is going to say "Don't worry about it... go ahead and breach the terms of your Deed of Trust."

I agree with some of the other comments here. It is not uncommon that a mortgage contain a provision providing that in order to transfer any interest in the property, (including to a real estate holding LLC) the bank must consent. If there is a similar provision in your mortgage, you technically do need the bank's consent. With that said, I have never seen a bank declare a default if an owner conveys the property to a single member llc where he or she is the owner. The bank is concerned about getting paid and its security. With that said, I would not be surprised if there are some rare cases where a bank did declare a default due to the conveyance without consent. If you want to do it by the book, you should get the bank's consent. You take a small risk that the bank could declare a default if you convey it to your LLC. You could always convey it back to you though if the bank did declare a default, but again - by the book, you should get the bank's consent.

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Mitchell Westmoreland:

Hi Ed, I own a duplex in my name and I'm considering transferring it to an llc. 

Should I be concerned with "due on sale"? What are your thoughts about this clause?

Thanks!

 To be honest, due on sale is something that I am not familiar with. It may be something unique to your state. Is this the same thing as conveyance tax?

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Marian Smith:

Edward Schenkel Hi, generous of you to share your expertise. What are some things landlords are sued for, besides the slip and fall type lawsuits? Eg, I offered to install a couple of swings on some large oak trees in my tenants backyard but asked them to sign a hold harmless in case one if their kids fell off and broke an arm. The parents thanked us and said the kids loved the swings. But was that kind of stupid on my part?

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Cathie Kovacs:

Hi Ed. I’m not clear on the proper entity structure to use in CT for the following scenario....

I’m going into a partnership with 2 others. That partnership plans to flip properties. I have several multi-family rentals completely separate from this partnership. 

I’m thinking to form an S Corp for myself. Then have that S Corp own individual LLCs for each multi-family. And also have that S Corp be the partner in the flipping partnership. 

Does that seem like a good approach or do you have other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

 Dear Cathie, 

These type of questions are always part legal and part accounting / tax. I would ask your accountant / tax professionals this question and see what they say as well. 

From a legal perspective, I would suggest having separate LLCs for each business venture. Therefore, I would suggest have a separate LLC own each piece of real estate (and ask your accountant whether to register at a S Corp or other, my clients accountants typically recommend S Corp) and have a separate LLC be the partner for your house flipping venture.

For the house slipping venture, the LLC can either be a member of another LLC (we will call it House Flipping, LLC for purposes of this discussion) and your partner can be the other member of house flipping, LLC. In the alternative, you can have a partnership agreement between your LLC and your partner. It might be easiest to have the house flipping venture structured with the House Flipping LLC structure where your LLC and your partner or the two members of House Flipping LLC because then you have an entity owned 50/50 with you and your partner that can also take title to the houses you flip and you can share risk equally,

I would suggest setting it up this way from a legal perspective so that if something went wrong on the house flipping venture, someone can only sue House Flipping, LLC and not go after your other multi families. Similarly, if someone slipped and fell at one of your multi family houses, they can only go after that one multi family house and not the other homes or house flipping llc.

I would strongly suggest setting up an operating agreement for house flipping LLC if you decide to move forward that business venture. You can feel free to message me about the details of the operating agreement. Also, when you set up the LLCs, there are managed member LLCS and member managed LLCs. If you have multiple members, you want to understand the differences before you set up the LLCs. Message me or call me if you have questions. Did this answer your question?

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Is anyone interested in hearing another tip on leases?

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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Originally posted by @Paul B.:

Is there any truth to the idea that having significant equity in a rental property increases your risk for lawsuits? In other words, all other things being equal, does being highly leveraged give you any additional asset protection? 

I can imagine that a plaintiff's attorney will take a look at what you own before decided to proceed with a case, but is there any value to the tactic of showing large debt (on the assumption that mortgages would be public record)? 

 Hey @Paul B. The only additional risk that I see is that a plaintiff may be more inclined to file a lawsuit if the defendant has assets. The Plaintiff's attorney will see your equity as an asset it can go after if the Plaintiff gets a judgment. One of the things I always look at when a client approaches to me to file a lawsuit is what can we get if we win. If there is equity in real estate, great. If the only thing the defendant owns is real estate that is under water and he or she has no job and no other assets, I would probably advise against it because it will be difficult to get anything from the judgment unless you want to put a lien on the real estate and hope the value goes up so if you foreclose you will get something. In short, equity = an asset that a P can go after so yes, it means a plaintiff will be more likely to sue you if he or she has a claim against you. My advise  - just don't get sued:) and if you do get me to defend you :P

Post: Ask An Attorney Anything About Real Estate Law

Edward SchenkelPosted
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  • Norwalk, CT
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Originally posted by @Edward Schenkel:
Originally posted by @Edward Schenkel:
Originally posted by @Joe Kato:

Hi Ed,

I'm subscribed! Thanks for sharing helpful info. I have MFR and SFR in CT. Will add your tip to my leases. Also have some property in Trust.

My  question is about selling land.  Can I sell land, owner financed, but turn the title/deed over to buyer(holding 1st lein on property) so they can start digging/building?  Or should I hold title until the buyer obtains bank loan and pays me off to transfer title.  Thanks! 

 Hey Joe, how are you. The question is more of a business question in my opinion than a legal question but I will try to provide some value. There is no law in CT that I am aware of that will prevent you from providing owner financing to builder who wants to develop your lot. However, I think if you decide to do this, you should get some money up front combined with owner financing so you have some skin in the game so to speak. If you need to foreclose, that will take time and money, etc. so you want to have some initial equity. Also, I have done complicated owner financed deals for clients and one issue I see with this deal is that as lender, you want to make sure you have the right to review and approve what the new owner will do with the property. This will help you to make certain that your loan will secure adequate value. In other words, you do not want the new owner to build something that you think may not create enough value to satisfy your debt if you need to foreclose. There are other issues I see too, but this is a big one. 

In deciding whether to do owner financing v. a traditional closing where the buyer gets a bank loan is really a business call. For example, you can make money off the interest if you do owner financing where you will not receive this benefit if you do a standard closing where the buyer uses a bank loan. However, owner financing typically involves more risk as you will need to foreclose if the new buyer defaults. Can the new buyer even do the deal unless you provide owner financing? these are things to consider when deciding whether to do owner financing v. bank loan. Does this help?

Ed

 One other thought too. If you provide seller financing, make sure you are a named insured on the insurance certificate like a regular bank.