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All Forum Posts by: Eduardo Zepeda

Eduardo Zepeda has started 10 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Is Real Estate Recession Proof?

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

@Dan Close Real estate is not an asset class. Thus it cannot be subject to a blanket statement like that. There are dozens of ways to invest inside of real estate and hundreds of markets to do it in. With that said, I strongly believe that certain asset classes in real estate and within certain markets are well insulated from recession while others are highly exposed.

Post: $200K - home addition or pay home loan?

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

I think you've got some good advice here. While paying down principal can yield you 4%, once you make that payment, that's money you can no longer use should you want to. You lose control over it unless you refinance and pull the cash back out, but of course, that comes at a cost. Even if you expect to make only a 4% cash on cash return from the rental income generated by the expansion not including added value to the home, that's a no brainer since it's cash coming into your account that you can actually use and re-deploy to have it work for you vs having it trapped in the equity that you cannot have work for you.

Post: Dave Ramsey Is Misleading The Public

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

One key issue is lack of understanding of consumer debt versus business debt but he fails to make that distinction and the uninformed public is unaware of how the latter works or even that it exists. One loses you money while the other makes you money. One is stupid; one is smart.

Post: Closed Today on our SF Bay Area Duplex

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

Congrats on the acquisition, Joshua! I'm familiar with the difficulty of winning a deal if one is using FHA financing as I've been through the process myself. What other terms did you include to make your offer competitive against others?

Post: What CAP rates are you seeing in your market for multifamily

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

In my opinion, the only asset class in which cap rates are truly relevant are absolute net leased properties since there is no ambiguity over net operating income. Otherwise, you make a TON of assumptions on operating expenses that are almost never apples to apples.

Post: RE Investor happy hour - downtown SF

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

Please join us for June edition of our monthly happy hour. Come grab a drink and talk shop with other local, like-minded real estate investors and entrepreneurs looking to exchange value and build their business. We're stoked to report that this happy hour has been birthplace to multiple partnership formations and we look forward to many more connections to be made.

You should join us if you're:

- of an abundance mindset and not a scarcity mindset

- looking to build your team

- looking to provide value to others through your knowledge

- currently analyzing a deal

- looking for a partnership or mentorship

- interested in learning about other real estate niches

- looking to put capital to work in real estate

Event page on Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/SFREConnection/events/262065562/

Looking forward to catching up with everyone on the 12th.

Post: Is it possible to buy a cash flow property in the Bay Area?

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

The answer is yes, you can, but it's very difficult and probably not where you're looking. There are some parts of the Bay Area where you can find positive cash flow as the sale prices have not yet too disproportionate to the rents. However, you are almost certainly not going to get one of these deals by looking on the MLS and paying full retail. Since property values are so high relative to median rents, you will almost certainly only be able to find a cash flow positive deal either by buying at a discount to full market price and or creating the deal yourself. There is no shiny, clean, on-market deal where the numbers just work. The way you buy at a discount is that you find a property or a seller with a problem. That means you look for and are able to identify unique opportunities in what may appear to be insurmountable problems. It can mean making price offers based on your numbers and not the asking price even if it means a low ball offer. It can mean possibly doing an OMI eviction should you have the ability to do that honestly and ethically (not advocating that but it's just an example). It can mean finding a needle in the haystack to-good-to-be-true listing where the numbers do pencil, that maybe has an inexperienced agent or seller or both, pouncing on it aggressively maybe site unseen and getting it under contract before anyone else gets a chance to compete. That's what I did on my last deal and within a day of having a ratified purchase contract the seller had multiple back up offers, but it was too late because I already controlled the deal. DM me and I can send you the numbers on it since you asked for a real world example and I'm glad to provide. Get yourself a good advisor and agent that can identify these opportunities and is a skilled negotiator that knows how to tie up a property should the right one come along. If you blink it'll be gone.

Post: Need Advice: Thinking to buy new condo to renting out in Bay Area

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

Consider two investment scenarios in which you could choose between one property with positive cash flow and a reasonable chance of some appreciation and one with negative cash flow and strong likelihood of good appreciation.

Investor has a salary of $120,000 per year with an aggressive savings rate of $30,000 per year.

Property A 

3bd single family home in high priced growth market

Purchase price: $600,000

Down payment: $150,000

Monthly rent: $3,000

OPEX, capex & vacancy: ($1,000)

P&I @ 5%: ($2,415)

Cash flow: -$415 / mo, -$4,980 / yr

Property B:

Triplex in secondary cash flow market, but also modest appreciation

Purchase price: $600,000

Down payment: $150,000

Monthly rent: $5,000

OPEX, capex & vacancy: ($1,650)

P&I @ 5%: ($2,415)

Cash flow: $935 / mo, $11,220 / yr

Property A gain after 5 years: -$24,900

Property B gain after 5 years: $56,100

Delta: $81,000

Of course, the premise with appreciation is that you make it all back when you sell and realize your gain when the property appreciates. However, one inherent issue is that as we all know, we don't know exactly how and when that will happen. Of course, things can go according to plan and the property appreciates as expected. But how do you know when is the right time to sell? How do you know you're not selling too early? It's a constant guessing game and trying to time the market in order to maximize your gain, unless you have the discipline to stick to your exit strategy and predetermined hold period. Either way, the only way to profit is to sell and realize the gain, backing out closing costs and making sure you're adequately set up for an exchange unless you're okay paying capital gains tax.

However, if the market is in a contraction at the end of your predetermined hold period and the value is at or below it's original value, then you would be required to hold for longer until it recovers and rebounds, but for how long? All of course while sustaining a $5k a year loss. The 5 year hold might easily then turn into a 10 year hold. Of course it would be okay should the gains be there, but the velocity of your capital in this scenario becomes extremely low. 

There are a couple of other things to consider as well. Consider a scenario with property B by comparison with the positive cash flow. With the negative cash flow of property A, it would damper your savings rate from $30k/yr down to $25,020 per year. In this case it would take you 6 years to save up the same $150k down payment for the next investment. With property B, if you were willing to save what you would be in the negative with property A ($415/mo) and you combined that with the cash flow $935, you'd be putting away $1,350/mo, or $16,200 per year. Combined with your savings rate of $30k from your job, you're collapsing the timeframe down to 3.24 years. Assuming you're able to duplicate a similar deal, now you have two properties producing $1,870/mo in just over 3 years. If you then repeat the same process again by reinvesting the cash flow combined with your savings, now you collapse the timeframe to 2.8 years and you pick up your 3rd property for a total combined cash flow of $2,805/mo, and so forth. The key concept here is that this strategy is repeatable and can be modeled and it allows the investor to build and scale a business around it, whereas with realizing gains through appreciation approach, while appreciation in and of itself IS reasonably predictable, the WHEN is most certainly not. There is a reason why the institutional and large real estate investors who operate businesses around the acquisition and operation of their assets in the hundreds of millions employ this model.

Post: Need Advice: Thinking to buy new condo to renting out in Bay Area

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

@Vineet Bindal

As others have said, cash flow is king. There are many reasons for this which I won't get into. But what I can say is that cash flow is achievable in the Bay Area. It may seem impossible, but it's not. I've done it twice in the last two years. It is certainly difficult and it takes discipline, patience, persistence, and knowledge. It's about recognizing the general areas and property types where this can be achieved, waiting for the right opportunity, and knowing not only how to recognize the opportunity but acting on it. It's especially not limited to properties recently on the MLS that have a call for offers date; in fact that's probably the least likely place. As the saying goes, you make your money when you buy, and as such, the opportunity is often more in a seller than in the property itself.

Post: What should I do with $20k?

Eduardo ZepedaPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 50

@Lucas Miller

Maybe partner up with someone as a minority partner in their deal and learn. Education will be your biggest gain from your initial deal. There’s a lot to learn even before you acquire the property. How to identify opportunities. How to analyze them. How to put together an offer and ultimately get it under contract. How to perform your due diligence and navigate the contract period. Then there’s a whole set of things to know once a property is yours. If you’re able to find a mentor or seasoned investor that will take you along for the ride and let you invest your cash alongside them too, the return on your time with the knowledge you gain will exponentially exceed your financial gain from the deal.