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All Forum Posts by: Dylan Ritch

Dylan Ritch has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Dylan Ritch:
Quote from @Dan H.:

Some comments in no particular order:

- residential RE is not passive even with the use of a property manager. Look at syndications or NNN for more passive options. Notes also unless something goes wrong.
- why has RE been a great wealth builder. Sure it has potential for cash flow, appreciation including forced appreciation, tax benefits, mortgage pay down but in most markets it is the leverage that accounts for the significant return. Unless you plan to sell your home soon, cash out refi it. If a RE value increases at the rate of inflation, you have no gain from appreciation in inflation adjusted dollars without leverage. But if you have it financed at 80% LTV you have achieved 4x return of the inflation rate. Leverage is why RE has historically obtained outstanding returns.
- RE has risk.  Most investing has risk and typically higher return equates to higher risk.  It is really about evaluating risk/return scenarios.  This implies that this zero risk, high return you seek likely does not exist in RE.  

- you are the only one that can determine the correct path for you but with your contacts and desire to scale, value adds should be evaluated.  Note value adds are work and have risk but as I indicated I do not believe what you seek exists in RE investing.  RE investing has risks.   Most RE options are not passive.  

Good luck


One option I have considered is selling the house and downsizing as it is more than what I need to live. But I might not if it does not make sense to. I know a bit about refi, but can you explain more about that and how I could potentially leverage this? When I say low risk I guess I am more trying to say I don't want to risk losing the house, at the end of the day I will evaluate the risk level of any options and make my decision based on comfort levels. Also I know one rental property isn't enough cash flow with a property manager, but if years down the line if I have 4-5 properties, I feel then it should be enough cash flow to justify a property manager? Also can you expand on what NNN is?

Your questions tell me you have a lot of RE educating before you are ready.  I mean no insult, everyone starts there.  

When you have a loan on an RE, you have it leveraged meaning you "own" it without having "paid" the full cost. Let's use fictitious $100k property (we will ignore closing costs for this example) that goes up 10% total (this is less than 5% annual due to compounding) in 2 years. If you invested $100k you made 10% ($10k on $100k invested) but if there was 7% inflation you made just under 3% in inflation adjusted dollars from the appreciation. Now in you had a loan at 80% LTV (typical max leverage on non owner occupied SFR) then you only had invested $20k. So you made 50% from appreciation ($10k of $20k invested).

Leverage allows RE to produce inflated returns.  S&P and RE have about the same gain in recent times, but the ease of leveraging RE has allowed it to produce better return (but less passive).  


triple net (nnn) lease is a typically commercial lease where tenant is responsible for all maintenance/cap ex and usually tax and insurance.  These are usually valued largely based on the strength of the tenant and the lease.  For example if you have an in-n-out or Starbucks with a 10 years left on a NNN lease with 4% annual rent increase that is very low risk.  You will have little effort for the next 10 years of having rent show up in your account.  Of course low risk typically equates to low margins but passive for duration of lease for as long as tenant performs.  Recognize in-n-out and Starbucks are near best case tenants.  The reality is most tenants are not as low risk and therefore should have better margins.  

best wishes

 I agree I do still have a lot to learn, which is why I am here and in the starting out category. I want to learn as much as I can and don't plan on making any moves until at the very least the start of 2025, but that is only if I feel confident.

Thank you for explaining those things, I am still a little confused about the loans. So what I think you are is just letting the property appreciate barely or might not keep up with inflation. That it is better to take a loan at 80% LTV and invest that? I feel like I am misunderstanding that

Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Dan H.:

Some comments in no particular order:

- residential RE is not passive even with the use of a property manager. Look at syndications or NNN for more passive options. Notes also unless something goes wrong.
- why has RE been a great wealth builder. Sure it has potential for cash flow, appreciation including forced appreciation, tax benefits, mortgage pay down but in most markets it is the leverage that accounts for the significant return. Unless you plan to sell your home soon, cash out refi it. If a RE value increases at the rate of inflation, you have no gain from appreciation in inflation adjusted dollars without leverage. But if you have it financed at 80% LTV you have achieved 4x return of the inflation rate. Leverage is why RE has historically obtained outstanding returns.
- RE has risk.  Most investing has risk and typically higher return equates to higher risk.  It is really about evaluating risk/return scenarios.  This implies that this zero risk, high return you seek likely does not exist in RE.  

- you are the only one that can determine the correct path for you but with your contacts and desire to scale, value adds should be evaluated.  Note value adds are work and have risk but as I indicated I do not believe what you seek exists in RE investing.  RE investing has risks.   Most RE options are not passive.  

Good luck


One option I have considered is selling the house and downsizing as it is more than what I need to live. But I might not if it does not make sense to. I know a bit about refi, but can you explain more about that and how I could potentially leverage this? When I say low risk I guess I am more trying to say I don't want to risk losing the house, at the end of the day I will evaluate the risk level of any options and make my decision based on comfort levels. Also I know one rental property isn't enough cash flow with a property manager, but if years down the line if I have 4-5 properties, I feel then it should be enough cash flow to justify a property manager? Also can you expand on what NNN is?

Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @Dylan Ritch:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

To be honest, your post is really disjointed. You want something easy (set it and forget it), but then mention multifamily and hiring property management. That is not the path to wealth or time freedom. Being a landlord sucks for the most part because most people go into it thinking it's easy. If you hire PM on your first property, you are just tossing money away. You still have to manage the manager to be successful and you will learn nothing.

Are you living in the house with no mortgage? What are the specs of that house? Can you add an ADU in the back in your area?

I understand what you're saying, I feel I didn't mention anything on time frames. I am fine to learn this stuff and put in the work, but I have been told that this work is very front loaded and that is my goal. I don't mind committing 2-5 years to get everything running and established, so long as by the end of that time frame any portfolio I have is set up in a way to set it and forget it.

I have been living in the home with no mortgage, the house is a 2 bedroom, 1 bath, 1300sqf, and in good condition. I can't add an ADU in the back of the area, there is not enough space.



Where is the house? Over time, a good bet would be to save up enough to find a two-family to house hack with lower money down and move there and rent out this one you own outright which would cash flow nicely. 2-1 single-families can be great for mid-term rentals as well which can 1.4-2.5 your cash flow.


 That is exactly what I have been leaning towards doing. The house is in Clementon NJ, which is not the best area for growth imo, but I think there is rental potential as some houses nearby are being rented as well. Plus there is a community college and train station less than 5 minutes away. I think I could save up around 50k for a nice duplex to house hack and if not then I can continue to live in my place and just rent both out. I think 50k would be for a good downpayment and reserves. Would the goal after I get a duplex to use the income streams and my work income to pay it off as soon as possible? I am unsure what the next step for growth when I am ready to grow after that is. Also, would it be a good idea to use a home equity loan for the 50k or does that seem like unnecessary risk since I can probably raise that 50k within one more year?

Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

To be honest, your post is really disjointed. You want something easy (set it and forget it), but then mention multifamily and hiring property management. That is not the path to wealth or time freedom. Being a landlord sucks for the most part because most people go into it thinking it's easy. If you hire PM on your first property, you are just tossing money away. You still have to manage the manager to be successful and you will learn nothing.

Are you living in the house with no mortgage? What are the specs of that house? Can you add an ADU in the back in your area?

I understand what you're saying, I feel I didn't mention anything on time frames. I am fine to learn this stuff and put in the work, but I have been told that this work is very front loaded and that is my goal. I don't mind committing 2-5 years to get everything running and established, so long as by the end of that time frame any portfolio I have is set up in a way to set it and forget it.

I have been living in the home with no mortgage, the house is a 2 bedroom, 1 bath, 1300sqf, and in good condition. I can't add an ADU in the back of the area, there is not enough space.


Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

Your coworkers are trying to politely tell you to grow up and figure out what you want to do!

When you were in high school, you probably also had a challenge trying to figure out what you wanted to do after you graduated. 

Here's an easy answer for you: move into the house and rent out the rooms to generate cashflow.

I understand why they want me to figure out which I want to do first, that makes sense and I am in the process of doing that now. That is why I made this post, explaining my situation and asking how I can learn more about my options

Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3

Post: How do I know what kind of investing is right for me?

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3

Hello, I am 23 and have a job with a real estate company. It is a small team and I have been here for about 8 months now. All my coworkers are much older and very wealthy through real estate, all different ways. Flipping, commercial, turnkey, multifamily, etc. I inherited a house last year with no mortgage on it and I really want to get into real estate investing, when I talk to them about it, they always say figure out which kind I want to get into first and then they'll offer me all the advice and help they can. I am just not sure what I want. I want cash flow, low to no long term maintanence (set it and forget it type), and the less risk the better. I feel like renting out multifamily is what I may be looking for with this, if done right can give me cash flow, I can hire a property manager at some point and I am friends with a lot of home improvement companies, and I could either use some money I have saved up to put a down payment or home equity loan for some % I am comfortable with and pay both off as fast as I can and repeat. Although, I don't know a lot on the other options and I may enjoy another one more or be a better option for me. How can I learn more about which option I should get into?

Post: Just inherited a house and have no clue what to do

Dylan RitchPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • new jersey
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 3

So I inherited a house from a family that passed away a few months ago. It has no mortgage, pretty good condition, and has so much opportunity. It has 2 bedrooms upstairs and an unfinished 1090 sq ft basement (house itself is 1250 sq ft) No inheritance tax and I’ve been living here now for a few months. I just don’t know what I should do here. It’s such a great opportunity but I’m very new to this world and I want to make the most of the situation but I don’t want to take a lot of risk. My goals in the next few years would be to achieve financial freedom and I know that is possible with the house. Maybe I get the basement finished and move into there while getting tenant(s) for upstairs. Maybe I take out a full home equity loan and just buy another property to rent out/Airbnb. Maybe I take out the home equity and try to flip a home. Maybe I do a bunch of other things. I guess I am here because I feel lost and overwhelmed and want to learn how to make the most of this situation to achieve my goals in a safe way over the next 1-5 years if possible.