All Forum Posts by: Dvorah K.

Sue, you are hilarious.  That would be a good line.  lol  ;-)

My advise is not to be so emotionally involved in your upcoming deals.

Brian P. is right - you spent a grand for signs, but that does not mean they stopped working after they brought in just one lead.

In any case, you can look at this as a great learning experience and when the next possible deal comes along, just look at the numbers. If it doesn't work - move on.

All the best

Silver - wish I could take credit, but I can't. lol Thank the man on this forum that always says this - that's where I learned it from - and it just makes darn good sense! :lol:

Ryan - WOW! I thought I had a pretty positive attitude, but I think you just beat me hands down with that comment! :mrgreen: Super attitude. And by the way, kudos on your integrity for not trying to pawn it off on an unsuspecting newbie. You're an awesome human being! :D

1. Waiting to try to understand and know everything before I started. - Just go to your network and get with some seasoned investors that you trust from your local REIA, develop your first strategy and exit and go for it.

2. Not having a solid plan as to what route I would take. - Again, ask for advise and partner with someone you trust from your local REIA. Ask them to evaluate your goals and their opinion of the plan you have chosen. - Or ask their thoughts of what your plan should be that would fit your means and goals for that time.

3. Having to use a calculator to see if doing my first rehab (my first real property investment ever) would be profitable enough. :mrgreen: There is an investor here at BP that says if he has to use a calculator, it is not a good enough deal. I now understand what he means. lol

From now on, I will just double the actual amount I figure rehab might be, and add a few other costs in my head. If I get the amount of profit I want from that and my costs are well below market value- I will consider it a great deal and one to go thru with.

I am getting so much out of everyone's learning experiences! Thank you all! :D

Darrin - if you have the ability to do that, I feel it would be beneficial to expose what Property23 and Sean Whalen is doing. There are a lot of people who come to this site just to absorb info and never even create a profile. It could save hundreds of others from getting scammed.

I don't look at it as 'bashing' a person, I am not into that. However, I do look at it as getting the word out on a company and the man behind it that intentionally does fraudulent business by grossly misleading advertising and strong arm sales pitches.

If I remember correctly, there is a certain part in this forum for warnings on certain 'gurus', products, programs and companies. That would be a good place to continue this thread. Title it Sean Whalen and Property 23.

I was talking to the buyer the other day and he has still been kept from talking to the boss and are still giving him a run around and telling him that they have not lost a law suit against them to date. (more or less telling the buyer not to even try because they will win - they know by experience). This is very telling information as it stands - how many other before this buyer have they swindled??

Just throwing this out there to the BP community, is there anything that can be done on a whole here, not just with THIS buyer, but all the buyers that this company has intentionally mislead. Have like all of them stand together and file one big suit? Not immediate gratification, but...

This company seems to be getting thru a lot of loopholes, surely their contracts, etc can not be that ironclad. Do we have any lateral thinkers out there? :idea:

Thorney - If you do some research, you will find it is uncanny that he shows up anywhere there is a complaint about him. BP was no exception. Most people are voicing their complaints on small boards that never get looked at. This time he tried to take on the BP members and they know BS when it is around.

Yes, BP has great people that contribute their knowledge and time and we all appreciate it. I am sure that the newer members are striving to follow in the footsteps and contribute their knowledge, as they get it, in the future. That is just how good people work. You give of yourself. What goes around ultimately comes around. :wink:

Hey Bryan,

Thanks for lovin' the passion. lol I hope Mr. Whalen surprises us all here too and comes back doing the right thing... but I too feel we will never see him again. - Well... maybe a year or two from now under an alias name, yet again defending his 'good name' with a different company. Seems he has a rep to just try to make money without regards to how many people he screws. Hopefully he will finally understand that NO business succeeds if it is based on deception and dishonesty.

Audley - I love this about BP too. Fraudulent, slick, smooth talking bad biz people get exposed here.

Bryan and Joel - I won't go into the 'exposed' issue. I will follow Audley's lead and take your words for it. :-) hee hee

Sean, no need to talk to me - I did not buy from you the totally misrepresented property.

If you would be glad to talk to the mystery person who got royally screwed by you - believe me, he has been trying to contact you ever since the first contractor went to see the property after the sale. You have refused to speak to him.

Maybe the 'mystery person' is just one of several people trying to contact you for the same reasons?? I have a feeling he is not an isolated incedent. By other reports of dissatisfaction on the internet, it is obvious that the person I speak of is not the only person who has been 'royally screwed' by you and your VERY MISLEADING site.

Shame, shame Mr. Whalen! Do the right thing and give this person his money back. Looks like you are going to need some positive karma - so you better do the right thing or it is going to come and bite you on your tushy.

If your company is doing so well, you obviously did not do your homework on the property as your site says you do, so just admit you made a mistake and refund the guy his money.

BTW, you could just make it REALLY easy to contact you by actually PUTTING your contact info at the bottom of your sig. Promises, promises. Seems you are full of them but do not deliver.

Please, stop trying to sweet talk - take responsibility and admit the truth. Do the right thing... NOW. Make your life worth living.

Karma, Mr. Whalen, karma... don't want to get on the bad side of it...

:-)

Chad, we use private money lenders. I am still rather new at this too. I love it.

I am in love (in a business way) with my wholesaler there in Jacksonville. I have no problem referring him and his partner. If you are planning to invest there, I can give you a whole credible team to work with! :mrgreen:

We chose Jacksonville as one of the cities to invest in because it is a navy town. A lot of VA loans. Other reasons include that they have both a buy and hold market as well as a retail market, the lower end homes are still selling well and the higher end homes are starting to sell well over the last few months and the city had properties that we could buy and rehab at our price point and met the criteria we wanted. :D

Hey Chris!

Welcome to BP! Good luck on your first close - keep us posted!