Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Dushyant Ravi

Dushyant Ravi has started 2 posts and replied 54 times.

Post: How to calculate price for Multi Family property

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Kevin Lim:

please correct me if I am wrong here. I like to look at unlevered cash flow the property will produce and use gordon growth model to come up with a NPV, which is the intrinsic value today. The discount rate I use is cap rate plus my premium.  This is similar to stock valuation - my background - method and would like to know if anyone in real estate uses this method to value.

Its very similar. Discount rate-Growth Rate. =Cap Rate. 

Post: Investing in hotels - stupid question

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35

Diana, most investors work with brokers who assist them with buying hotels. Hospitality is a niche asset class and you have brokers who specialize in the product type. Big commercial brokerages like CBRE and JLL have divisions for just hospitality. You can browse through a site like Loopnet to see what is available for sale but nothing beats a good broker with sending you deals/OM's that fit your investing needs. I am a banker and hospitality is close to 50% of what I finance. If you have any specific questions on financing or valuation, feel free to use me as a resource, happy to help in any way I can. 

Post: How to becone an Asset Manager

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35

I work with institutional clients like Blackstone, Related, Carlyle, Brookfield and I also work with non institutional clients. Institutional firms have formal analyst/associate programs where they hire students out of college or out of MBA programs and mold them into asset managers. Outside hires are from other institutional firms-private equity shops, banks, etc.  Nothing shows more interest and passion in real estate than working in real estate- investing on your own or working for a firm. Being proficient in argus and financial modeling will be crucial and helpful. For a non institutional firm, hiring is more unstructured and typically hire based on need or they might  use  freelancer asset managers .Given your situation- I would say reaching out to a non institutional sponsor, learning the ropes and working for them is a more reasonable and achievable goal. You can use that as a stepping stone to move to bigger firms. 

Post: How would you determine the value of a longtime vacant warehouse?

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35

A broker should be able to show you "dark trades" so that you can see what a empty or empty-ish building is trading in your market. I often use RCA to find comps and you can tell when a comp is a dark trade. 

Post: Commercial Real Estate Underwriter

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35

I work for a commercial real estate lender. Debt and Equity teams often outsource underwriting work to firms like Situs, Spring 11, Townhouse etc. DB even brings in an army of people from Situs to work on site and you could not even tell the difference between who works for DB and who works for Situs. 

Post: Apartment Complex Financing

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Steve Hall:

@Amy Heitner I am sure you had good intentions, but copying inaccurate information from another third-party source and posting it on BP, before verifying the accuracy of the information yourself, is unprofessional and likely illegal.  If you did not get the site owner's permission, I'm pretty sure you've violated copyright laws. Unfortunately, many new members of BP trust all of the information they read on this site. You are doing them a great disservice.

Your post has quite a few upvotes, which I can only assume means that many BP members are thankful for the information, but I'm sure those that voted didn't know the information was mostly inaccurate and incomplete. For those that want the correct information, here are links to the ACTUAL Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Small Balance Loan Programs. The other loan programs mentioned my Amy vary so widely by lender, it is impossible to list their specific details.

Just as an example, here are just a few of the things that are wrong with the Freddie Mac loan specifications posted by Amy:

Freddie Mac Small Balance Loan Program

  • The rate is NOT fixed for a range of 5 years to 30 years. (The maximum fixed rate period is 10 years)
  • Loan to value rarely reaches 80% unless you are in a "top market"
  • The size of loan is NOT limitless. (Limited to $7.5 million)
  • 30 year amortization is an option, but it is NOT the only option.

There are so many more qualifications/ disqualifications like:

  • 90% Occupancy
  • No military or student housing
  • Net worth equal to, or greater than the loan amount
  • No subordinate debt

I find that most people don't even qualify, instantly, because they don't have a net worth of over $1 million, which is the minimum loan amount.

Bottom line here BP members: Don't believe everything you read on BP. Do you due diligence and go to the source to verify that what you read is indeed accurate.

To add to this, I am a CMBS lender, so a few corrections on CMBS.

Smallest loan amount is not $2MM, on a case by case basis, loan amounts can be smaller. 

Loan terms are 5, 7 or 10 years. 15 is not offered in CMBS 2.0 especially for conduits.

On rates being very low- as much as I would love to sell CMBS, if I am being honest- rates are not "very low"- however we will be competitive with balance sheet lenders, agencies, life co's, etc. The biggest selling points more than the rate are non recourse, long term fixed rate term, and the ability to offer financing in secondary and tertiary markets.

Post: Need Feedback for Property Analysis Calculator

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35

@Eric Sipe I like Annual Cash flows in one tab and that can feed your next tab titled Property Returns. This tab can have IRR, EMX, Cash on Cash, etc. At the beginning, I also like to have a summary page which shows the high level metrics, property details, some key inputs etc. Adventures in CRE has a ton of free models you can use.

Post: Need Feedback for Property Analysis Calculator

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35

Good work Eric, I like it. I would add IRR & EmX. That should cover all your bases.

Post: Importance of an Investment Grade Tenant- A CMBS Lenders View

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

Haven't used CMBS with my clients in years. There are too many private investors, insurance companies, credit unions, local, regional, national banks in the space now with great terms.

Used to 5 to 6 years ago regular lenders were only doing 3 to 5 year loans and rates were higher than CMBS. So CMBS offering 10 year and 30 year amortization was appealing even on smaller 3 to 5 million dollar loans with high CMBS loan costs.

Now banks are offering 10 year fixed with 30 year amortization in the 4's. CMBS has lost most of it's appeal anymore. Where CMBS shines is on much larger deals where banks do not want a huge loan on one property. I have seen banks pool together to offer different ranches of debt on a larger loan to do a deal.

Most of my deals CMBS is my last resort these days. Just better terms and cheaper debt out there that can close faster and with less red tape and legal costs.

Good Points Joel. As you mentioned yourself, what we are seeing now with the amount of capital flowing from life co's, debt funds is a very recent phenomenon. And in your experience you very well know that this is not normal and things are going to change. In my view, CMBS is not the end all and be all and is not a fit for everybody. At its peak, it financed 50% of CRE and now it is finances 15-25% of CRE and it always will have around a quarter or so of market share because it fills a need very well. CMBS was created in the early 90's because CMBS can fill a need that balance sheet lenders just cannot. Our bank has a balance sheet product but even in primary markets we cannot put a 10 year fixed rate non recourse loan on our balance sheet. Our balance sheet terms are typically 3-5 year floating rates and with CMBS we can offer consumers a 10 years fixed rate non recourse product and consumers benefit from it as they get an additional financing source. When consumers get quotes from a cmbs lender, life co, credit union and a bank, the consumer wins as you get to compare different options and the competition gets you better terms.

Additionally, in your niche of NNN retail, I'm sure you would have transacted in extremely small or tertiary markets or dealt with sub $5 or $3MM loans. While a regional credit union or small bank will lend money on such a deal, you are not getting Prudential or Met Life to lend you 10+years fixed rate loans on their balance sheet when its a small loan in a tertiary market. You might have to reach out to a small life co. With CMBS, one of our main advantages is the ability to offer long term fixed rate loans in smaller markets because the way CMBS is structured, we are able to efficiently disperse risk that comes with smaller markets. Our most recent CMBS deals have been done in South Lake, Texas which has a population of around 30K and Traveler's Rest, SC which has a population of around 5K. So, CMBS is not a fit for everybody but what I typically tell borrowers is that instead of going with the first quote from a regional credit union, they should look at all their financing options- look at life cos, bank, credit union, conduit, and then make a decision. CMBS may not be the cheapest every time, but the combination of higher leverage, competitive pricing along with a 10 year fixed rate non recourse product and generous I/O period is compelling enough that can make a CMBS quote competitive for a lot of deals. And lastly, putting NNN retail aside, hospitality loves CMBS as 30-50% of our recent pools have been hospitality loans and most of those were small loans in secondary/tertiary markets.

Post: National pizza chain net lease investment

Dushyant RaviPosted
  • Lender
  • Irvine CA, United States
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Rao Mu:

unfortuantelY, tenants are not public and I couldn’t figure out when their franchise agreement ends. Also, tenant owns this business in the last 3 years only.

You can ask the current owner to get that info for you. That is critical information and should be part of your due diligence.