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All Forum Posts by: J Newman

J Newman has started 10 posts and replied 29 times.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@J Newman

it's not 2016 anymore, unfortunately so analyzing on-market deals is not going to get you anywhere.

the best BRRRR deals are generally off market, and involve very tough rehabs.

BRRRR is also not a cash flow strategy right now - it's an equity strategy. if done right, you end up with a break even property, and a good amount of equity.

Thanks for that! Yeah, "very tough" rehabs don't sound like where I would like to start. I'm new to this as well, but kinda not. My family has alot of property and all of it's paid for, but I've been now pushed abruptly into managing it after years of my family keeping me out of it. My goals are different than what it had been - yes, we want cash flow but I want to cut expenses and earn future income and equity for my children. Rental income paid for my college, and now it's my Dad's retirement. So, I have to preserve some of that cash flow, but given the equity we have, I'm trying to figure out how to manage these goals. I'm completely buried right now in getting the finances straightened out, but I don't know how best to start with that.

Quote from @Brandon Vanderford:

First of all, welcome to BiggerPockets. It looks like you are a relatively new member of this community, but it is a great place to be.

I am a property manager who focuses on the Triangle. That being said, I do manage property in the Triad, and visit Winston Salem a few times per month, on average. Maintenance coordination, rent collection, accounting, showings, application processing, etc. is conducted from my office. And then I will visit regularly for site inspections, move-ins, and meetings. Often, I'll take a walk through Old Salem, and grab a coffee at Anchor Coffee Co.

That being said, if you are open to having a property manager based in the Triangle, then I would be happy to have a conversation. Redwood Properties is a smaller, more boutique firm, and we can offer highly personalized, responsive management services.

If having a property manager with a "home base" in the Triad is a primary concern, then I would recommend giving Acorn & Oak a call. I have no experience with them from the client side, but my interactions with their agents have always been positive.  

 Hi Brandon, I think my we'd like to start with someone closer. My Dad is pretty skeptical about PMs in general, so he believes that we need someone closer. Although that "belief" might not be helpful, I'm going to indulge it first go around and then I'd have some data anyway to see how it goes without self-managing. In the end, I want to go with the PM who is going to be the best for us and also a great resource. We want to shift to some investing and having that relationship is very important. So I will definitely keep you on my list! Thanks again!

Quote from @Kaitlyn Aragon:
Quote from @Carrie Matuga:

@Kaitlyn Aragon

I'd start by setting aside time each day to analyze 5 deals in your chosen market. See if the BRRR would work based on current rental rates (ideally last 90 days but no more than 6 months out) and what similar fixed properties are selling for. At the same time I'd talk with a few lenders and get prequalified - get your documents in order! AND probably most important, talk with an investor-friendly real estate agent - learn the market, get property management recommendations and look at facebook groups for other investors in your chosen market.


 Oooo I love this reply! Thank you, Carrie! Thank you for providing actions I can take immediately. I have trouble analyzing markets (or at least doing that correctly). Any advice on that would be very helpful. 


 I second @Kaitlyn Aragon's comment - what's the best way to do this? Is there an equivalent of fantasy football in real estate?

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

Don't allow underwriting properties as a BRRRR be the lone criterion you rely upon. Focus on buying quality real estate. You can purchase a distressed SF home in many markets in the US, renovate the home, obtain an income approach appraisal and get your money back. In most cases, you will likely never see the equity convert to a realized gain and 2-3 years of cash flow will be eaten up by one major capital improvement event because the entry level SF homes struggle to absorb the cost of the repair. To put this another way, would you rather leave your $40,000 of capital in a property for 2 years and then walk away with a $50,000 realization event when you sell the home or in those 2 years complete 3 BRRRR transactions, become frustrated by the reality of owning the low income housing and then sell 3 homes after 5x as much work with no gain? I am not suggesting you can't acquire a BRRRR home (although it's more difficult right now with the higher interest rates), or you will necessarily fair better with the purchase that requires you to leave your $40,000 of capital in the property. I am merely using this as an illustration of how the BRRRR method might lead to owning more homes but not necessarily lead to better return on your money or time. Don't allow the recoup of your money to be the lone decision on whether the property is a good investment.


Hi Stuart! I thought your reply was interesting. After reading Dave Green's BRRRR book and having lived through a disastrous renovation of my own home (so there's some contractor trauma), taking on a major rehab upfront and missing out on cashflow felt really stressful. So, are you suggesting focusing more on getting a good deal, so really making sure your numbers are rock solid, and then putting in the best offer and going from there? When you read Dave Green's book from 2018, he's batting around numbers under $100k, which feels pretty unrealistic for something that's not in shambles.

We're investigating NC property management companies in the Triad for properties located in Winston-Salem, Lexington, Thomasville NC. We have mostly SFH but do have a 20-unit MF complex and then a few mom and pop commercial properties. Properties have been self-managed for a long time, so we're just exploring options. We've got many tenants who have been with us for a long time, so we're looking for some REALLY good options.

Post: High Point Property Manager needed

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Hi,@Luke Gilbert I saw your post. How did things go with Acorn and Oak? I'm looking for a PM in the area just to get some info to see if we want to go that route with our properties. Thanks!

Post: Website Templates for Leasing Properties

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Any website templates you recommend for leasing properties - preferably Squarespace but Word Press could work. Thanks!

I am probably 6 months - a year out from looking there. We owned a property several years ago, but we sold it when the HOA asked us to pay $25k for a roof.

Here's some background that might be helpful: My mom died last year unexpectedly. She managed the real estate properties that my parents hold. My Dad has been investing in real estate since he was 21, but he has been more operational/capital investments side. My dad and I are now co-managing, and I'm the legal and financial side. Yay, I'm a lawyer so I figured. We haven't had a chance to grieve because we have to get the financials straightened out, cut expenses, scramble to fund and save capital repairs, and manage her estate (properties weren't in that). This will take is going to take a few months to start to breathe. We are definitely going to change the way the business was being managed.

So here's my question: what's the best way to change the rent given our situation (Below)?

One of the main changes that shocked us both is how low the rent was on some of the properties. For the market it's probably 50-60% or more below market for 2 bedroom brick duplexes, for example. 

We've got to raise it, but we don't want alot of moveouts all at once, have to make a lot of repairs to rent given some of the capital demands we've just had (more surprises), so we're going to evaluate the properties and to check on those factors. It will affect alot of very long term tenants - 10+ years. Many of which are on a fixed income, and Dad is concerned about people moving in the winter when it's cold. Most are now on automatic renewal MTM leases. We've batted around ideas by raising gradually - in two parts, 1 soon and 1 6-9 months later, and letting them know that and starting with increases soon on some people and in March on others. Some people we're likely going to pull the bandaid on because we feel good about not having to do much to re-rent it. We're doing that analysis right now.

Sorry this post was so long.