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All Forum Posts by: Doug Pintarch

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Post: Real estate investor meetup near Harrisburg, Pa

Doug PintarchPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Harrisburg, PA
  • Posts 369
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What did I miss here?!?!    :-)

Post: How to unload a distressed house in Shamokin, PA

Doug PintarchPosted
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  • Harrisburg, PA
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Originally posted by @Diana Tian:

@Doug Pintarch Thank you. I just reached out to a realtor found from zillow and hope someone can help.  

You bet.  I hope it's a quick move for you!

Post: How to unload a distressed house in Shamokin, PA

Doug PintarchPosted
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  • Harrisburg, PA
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Shamokin, huh!!??  Coal regions!   Family's from there.   And there are more than a few "Distressed properties" there.  Hopefully a local realtor can help you unload it.

Post: Debate: Buy or Wait Given Looming Economic Recessionary Fears

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Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Brian Ploszay:

@Russell Brazil

The last recession was the best time of my career.  I knew it was a once in a lifetime opportunity to scoop up real estate assets.  That time frame accelerated my career.  Tough to be a broker during those years.  

 Yup once in a lifetime opportunity that set me up for life. But I was the right age, with the right amount of disposable income, in a safe job, with money to invest.   Everyone thinks is going to happen again, but something like that is much more of an every 75 year event.

Russell when we bought our STVR in Nov 2017 we were sitting in our attorneys office in Rehoboth Beach DE and he was telling us about the business during the recession...he had wealthy people he knew lined up in his office with checkbooks waiting for him, and he himself bought 4 more properties during that time.  

We were talking about this over the holidays, we planned on our next unit this fall, and we still do.  Buy-and-hold with a nice down payment and manage it properly is our goal, again!

Post: Bad credit tenant wants to buy

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i wouldn't carry the note on a loaf of bread for a 530, even if I didn't like the bread.

Their options would be :    1. Go get a loan and bring me a check.

                                                2. Move out in 30 days so I can close with my real buyer.

As soon as you close with them you'll have all kinds of excuses why they're late, and they'll play the previous paying good tenant angle on you, knowing you're not a "Real bank".

Post: Max out Roth or save for real estate?

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Originally posted by @Tyler Hogan:

@Doug Pintarch I didn’t mention that I’m currently making 401k contributions through work up to the company match which is 3% dollar for dollar. I can’t turn free money away! Other than that, I’m not doing any tax deductible investing.

My father was an upper middle class wage earner and retired as an engineer a few years ago around 60 years old. People expect expenses to go down after retirement, so they think "lower tax rate" when they start pulling from these 401k and IRA's. His expenses actually went up, so he's had to find ways to get money more creatively than just pulling funds out and taking the tax hit. For example, getting a mortgage on his house paying 3.5% interest instead of paying a high tax rate to pull from his IRA. I see why he wants me to max out the Roth, which wasn't available when he was my age. I also realize that he was a W2 employee his entire life, which is not the route I want to take so my path will be a little different.

That all makes sense Tyler, both for you and your father.  The age of the "Lifetime job" and pension-till-you-die are loooong gone I'm afraid.

Post: Max out Roth or save for real estate?

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Originally posted by @Ali Boone:

I'm always leery about any of those accounts- IRAs, roths, 401ks, etc. I realize they are the primary retirement means, but I don't like how they hog my money up and in the ways they tax it and such. I feel like I have more flexibility and growth potential, and fluidity and control, when I do real estate. 

Personal opinion with no good arguable basis, but I just don't like any of those accounts personally. I see my dad too tied up with his--how much he'd have to pay in taxes to pull any of it out, so he's not pulling it out, which seems pointless to me. Literally money he can't use without coughing up a huge chunk of cash to have access to it.

Ali my thoughts lately have been lining up with yours here.  I have a 401K rollover from a previous job and am putting a small portion of my income in the company 401K now (Nice high match), but I wonder at what price?  I think if I need it I'll be worried about taxes and penalties and when it does come time to draw and use it I'll be too scared to because I've been stacking it slowly but surely all those decades and now don't want to drain it!

I am not doing any Roth or increasing my contributions from my pay any more...just letting what I saved grow and putting everything into another STVR, and then another, and then we'll see what's possible.  And as soon as I made that decision I felt better and worried a bit less.   Thanks for your "Confirmation Post"!    NO maxing here OP!

Post: Growth Equity Group - How 170+ investors were scammed

Doug PintarchPosted
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Originally posted by @Tom V.:

Let me get these details straight: 

A medical resident attends an investment conference in Las Vegas, and buys a condo he has never seen.

He uses his paltry Self-Directed IRA money (subject to all of the restrictions on co-mingling funds, withdrawal penalties) and borrows in a loan structure that is non-recourse (necessary for his IRA funding use) with a 5% interest rate for 5 years.

The property cash flows for years, but after a while his reliable tenant moves out, and (lo and behold!) it is expensive to turn over the apartment and he has little control working from the other side of the world!  The funky little non-recourse loan is going to re-set from 5% to 9%  (Heaven forbid!) and he feels awfully hurt by the whole process!

First, I will hazard a guess that you were too young to have lost any money in the 2008 crash. You were probably in school, and everything you have ever known about investing is that you buy stuff and it goes up in value. You are in the medical profession, so you are smart. You think you're a bit more savvy than the average doctor even, in financial terms, because you found out about the magic(!) of self-driected IRA's and you have a leg up on everyone else.

Here are some lessons: 

1.  If you buy a product and you don't understand it, your risk is your own. 

2. Not all investments make money. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Concentrating your IRA in one goofy condo across the country is a very specific bet. Why didn't you simply buy mutual funds? Because you're smarter than the sheep who buy mutual funds?

3. Taking on debt in an IRA account is silly. If you don't have the reserve funds (in the IRA itself) to back up the investment, don't do it.

4. Plenty of people on Bigger Pockets are trying to sell the self-directed IRA/401K dream. It is a recipe for this kind of concentrated loss situation. DON'T MAKE INVESTMENTS IN PHYSICAL ASSETS WITH YOUR RETIREMENT FUNDS UNLESS IT IS MONEY YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE!!!!!!!!

5.  This too will pass.  Sell your asset if you have to.  Take your loss and move on.  No one sensible is going to have a tremendous amount of sympathy for a doctor in Hawaii who bought a condo on a lark.  "HOW CAN THEY LIVE WITH THEMSELVES?"  People brag here in the forums all the time about big spreads on wholesale deals and other shady practices.  "I just found a willing buyer and a willing seller"  You were the willing buyer here. 

6.  I welcome your indignant, "Why are you rubbing salt in the wound?"

Because you deserve the straight talk. 

Because people who buy tricky real estate with tricky tax angles and are uninformed will have their money taken again and again.  I am so glad this this example made with a young doctor in the prime of his career.  How about taking some ownership for your part in this dubious transaction? 

You didn't get "scammed" because your loan rate is going from 5% to 9%.  You didn't have a plan for when that would happen. 

I have lost money in deals.  Anyone who had assets in 2008 lost money (and 2000 for that matter).  People are getting freaked because the stock market is down a little bit.  Big Flipping Deal.   Risk is a real thing.  You lost.  Move on.  

FANTASTIC PROFITS are never guaranteed, especially when you are putting your training-wheel IRA capital at risk in concentrated deals.

People have forgotten how to lose money. Accept it, Own it. Move on. 

I hope I get talked to here just like this if I need to be.

Post: Can you take a pet deposit for service dog?

Doug PintarchPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Harrisburg, PA
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@Russell Brazil and @Carolyn Fuller,

Thank you both for the reply. We do accommodate dogs, and charge everyone the same stated fee for their time in the unit. We have it labeled as a pet fee with the VRBO listing.

I know checking with our attorney will be the final word, thank you for indulging me: We CANNOT charge the pet fee if they tell us it is a service dog then, correct?

Post: Intro from a contrarian.

Doug PintarchPosted
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  • Harrisburg, PA
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Originally posted by @Dan Taylor:

@Doug Pintarch

Yep, It's a super sore subject. But, since I knew I was taking a loss, I let it go to great people and had visitation rights! 

About value, Pretty sure @David Greene would have hit me over the head with sunk cost fallacies while the van build was going on. In hindsight, its more important to get outside like I did with my grandpa and not throw money at a trouble some VW.

You're exactly right, my friend.