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All Forum Posts by: Don M.

Don M. has started 2 posts and replied 135 times.

Quote from @Neal Coppola:
Quote from @Don M.:
Quote from @Peter Davis:

You're a trooper @Don M. for hanging in there. It hasn't been an easy ride for lots of folks building in Cape Coral over the past several years, but one silver lining is the property values have nearly doubled since Covid, though the market has cooled recently. 


 For sure!  I'm eager to see where the market is when this is done.

 Don -

You've got quite the fan base here on Bigger Pockets all wishing that you have a positive outcome.  Having said that, any updates that you can share?  We're all rooting for you!!!


 Appreciate the good vibes.
We have a driveway, shingles, canal line is cleared and turbidity screen in place.  Home stretch, I hope.

Quote from @Joe R.:
Quote from @Don M.:
Quote from @Joe R.:

You're almost there, Don Miller.  I'm rooting for this to be wrapped up! 


 Thanks Joe!
Are your projects at about completion?  I know we were at about the same point for a little while, although I think you started the process about a year after I did with another builder.


 The first build is about 2-3 weeks away from CO.  We're awaiting culvert inspection so they can finish the site grading, driveway, entrance way and landscaping.  They're doing the backsplash and electrical + plumbing finishes now.  Tile done, trim done, final painting happening as well.  I did a punch last week with the builder.  

I'm on the move, will share a few pics when I get back to my PC.  


Great news! Glad you're at the finish line. What is your plan with them? LTR, STR, sell?

Quote from @Joe R.:

You're almost there, Don Miller.  I'm rooting for this to be wrapped up! 


 Thanks Joe!
Are your projects at about completion?  I know we were at about the same point for a little while, although I think you started the process about a year after I did with another builder.


Since last month's update,
some internal paint was done and siding/lath was installed.
Tile on site, but not installed yet.
Estimated completion date quoted by builder was pushed back again.

Quote from @Peter Davis:

You're a trooper @Don M. for hanging in there. It hasn't been an easy ride for lots of folks building in Cape Coral over the past several years, but one silver lining is the property values have nearly doubled since Covid, though the market has cooled recently. 


 For sure!  I'm eager to see where the market is when this is done.

Quote from @Jeff Cody:

@Don M. - I did a flip in Cape Coral around that same time and the permitting took 5 months as well.  I should have finished that flip in early Sept '22, but we basically just started around then, and then in late Sept '22 Hurricane Ian came through.  I needed a new roof and some more, but it could have been worse, many lost everything.  I lost money on that deal, but learned a ton.  Good luck finishing yours up!  Are you local?

Good points.  Delays along the way, but could be worse in many ways.  Permitting and getting to the point of breaking ground was a very large part of this timeline.

I'm not local; I've visited during the process (including 2 months after hurricane Ian). Even through that, SWFL is pretty special.   I'm looking forward to the finish.
Quote from @Kristi Kandel:
Quote from @Don M.:

We took a trip to Cape Coral last week.
The area seems to be getting back to routine.  There are still a ton of roofs with blue tarps needing repair/replacement and some debris sitting curbside.  
Otherwise, we thoroughly enjoyed the area.  In driving past our property, we saw that a bunch of fill dirt was brought in for elevation/grading.

We also did a visit to Pine Island which has a lot of areas of worse damage.  Driving through Matlacha to get to Pine Island was particularly tough to see.  The area truly looks devastated, yet you can still see the charm that was there and will be back again.  There were people out and about smiling and offering free food to other residents.

Through the ups and downs, we continue to believe in the project and the area.

@Don M. I live in fort myers beach. I thought I saw my roof on CNN so I biked in 3 days after the hurricane to find out if I still had a house. Thankfully I did.  

When I was reading your updates I was thinking how your permit timing was lining up vs the upcoming disaster. 

I’m a big fan of the area in the long run, and the SWFL communities have proven their resiliency the past 1.5 years and will continue to do so. 

While we don’t have state income tax here we do have the hurricane tax that comes with high insurance premiums and little real insurance benefits/help when it’s needed. As long as you’re building with future hurricanes (wind and flood) in mind you can ensure that you’re prepared for future storms. 

 I took that approach with everything I rebuilt at my property in FMB and there is a peace of mind from knowing exactly how to handle the next hurricane. The unknown is always the worst and now knowing what to anticipate from all sides (fema, insurance, SBA, damage, cleanup, repairs and rebuilding, etc.) makes every future storm a little more tolerable.

Part of it just comes down to the price we are willing to pay to live in such an amazing area. Beyond the actual dollars. 

I do believe that our area will all bounce back much stronger than before and what would have taken at least the islands another 30-50 years to redevelop is now reduced down to likely a 7-15 year rebuilding period. 

The only thing constant in life is change AND ultimately the only thing we control in life is our Response to what happens. 


 What you all went through on the islands was unbelievable.  Ive been impressed with the response, resiliency, and rebuild down there.  

Quote from @Ruchit Patel:

Great to see some progress finally! 

Did they tell you what is their estimated completion date and what was the price of your contract again? Do you also remember appraisal value?


 More recently, they estimated completion, June 1.  However historically (last September) they had estimated December of 2023, so we will see.

The pre construction appraisal was in the low 400s.  Recently I've seen a couple of these sell for 360k to 385k.

land purchase was about 40k.  Contract price was about 246k.  I've had a change order for 14k and anticipate another may come when the canal line is cleared. 

one of the biggest things has been holding costs with my particular loan product, plus multiple extensions with multiple extension fees

Quote from @Eric James:

This is why I build outside city limits. In TX. 3 months from the time I purchase the land until they (I build small apartment buildings) are ready to be rented.


 Wow!  I can't even imagine. 

I will also say, I expected over a year and a half going into this, based on my information and research at the time, knowing about permitting and material delays in the area.  The Cat 5 hurricane direct hit (a week after closing on my loan) probably didn't help either.