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All Forum Posts by: Donald Williams

Donald Williams has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Originally posted by @Bryan Hancock:

You can say whatever you want as long as it is factual and it won't get in sued later on.  Anything you say, write, advertise, etc. becomes PART OF THE OFFERING and would need proper disclosures to go with it.  You have to be very careful when citing returns or doing pro formas.  Everything needs to be documented and it would be best to have your securities counsel review it.  

There is no way to market only to accredited investors if you advertise.  That is why there are heightened accreditation processes you have to go through to determine that someone is really an accredited investor.  You can no longer rely strictly on "self-certification" like you could with the old 506(b) rules.  You should consider hiring a third party accreditation service to do this for you.  They are not all created equally and there is a lot to choosing one correctly.  If you choose one that is too strict you'll filter out all of your investors because nobody wants to turn over all of the information the gov-mint wants to invest a small amount of money in a crowdfunded offering.  If you choose one that is too liberal you risk being the plaintiff in the case law that determines what reasonableness means.  

Guarantee and investment should NEVER go in the same sentence.  You can't ever guarantee anything.  I wouldn't even use "fixed".  I would use words like "projected" and other non-committal terms.  A good securities attorney will go through your offering and remove any adjectives or superlatives.   If things ever go sideways the plantiff's attorney, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, will blow those phrases up in 30-point font and display it for the jury while trying to hang you out to dry.

The bottom line is that you need a good securities attorney.  Don't try to do anything on your own.  There is simply too much risk in screwing it up.  You could lose your ability to sells securities in the future or GO TO JAIL if you do it wrong.  Pay the money.  

This is what I was asking. Of course I need a Lawyer when raising money but I was talking about marketing and advertising to people similar to the way you do on your website. I'm not saying send me money but do you want more information about making a return investing in real estate.

Also, if I talk to a friend about investing in real estate to get a return on his money, would I need a Lawyer or could I just have him fill out a Promissory Note secured by a Mortgage.

What can't you say when soliciting for Investors under the new rules. I heard you can't say things like guaranteed returns but you can say fixed returns of 10%. What else can you say?

Thanks

Post: A question about double closing on Real Estate

Donald WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Bedford, OH
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Originally posted by @Pari Thiagasundaram:

One more strategy would be to go to your local meetup group to find a CASH buyer. 

 I thought about that too but I know that will mean less money because a cash buyer will not pay $58,000 for it.

Post: A question about double closing on Real Estate

Donald WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Bedford, OH
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Originally posted by @Mary B.:
Originally posted by @Donald Williams:

I have a property under a purchase contract in the name of my LLC for $35,000. I put in some sweat equity and had some rooms painted and landscaping. I have buyers interested in the property and the selling price is $58,000.

When they go to get a loan, the property will be under the original owners name even though they will be signing a purchase agreement with me.

Can I still use transactional lending and double close on this property or do I need the original owner to put the property in a land trust with my LLC as the trustee?

Thanks

The numbers sound good but there's always the risk of your end cashbuyer not closing. Then you've just increased the property value on a house that you don't own and aren't able to profit from. Be careful with that method. Prehabbing strategy is an excellent one to utilize when wholesaling but works best when you've closed on it already, put a little sweat equity in then flip it to another investor a.s.a.p for cash. However, to answer your question, yes you can still do a double closing just make sure the check is made out for cash payment. You might want to stipulate that to your end buyer ahead of time so they can inform their lender...

Kudos,

Mary

 Thanks @Mary B. 

I was also thinking about putting a lien on the property for $23,000 but my original owner will know how much I sold the property for. Like I said, I didn't do much but I don't want him coming to closing and say you sold it for $58,000 and that's why I was looking at a double close. He didn't think the property was worth that much so he said he just wanted 35 grand for it. Is there any way to do this without him knowing the price I'm selling it for or should I just tell him and risk losing the property?

Post: A question about double closing on Real Estate

Donald WilliamsPosted
  • Investor
  • Bedford, OH
  • Posts 5
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I have a property under a purchase contract in the name of my LLC for $35,000. I put in some sweat equity and had some rooms painted and landscaping. I have buyers interested in the property and the selling price is $58,000.

When they go to get a loan, the property will be under the original owners name even though they will be signing a purchase agreement with me.

Can I still use transactional lending and double close on this property or do I need the original owner to put the property in a land trust with my LLC as the trustee?

Thanks