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All Forum Posts by: Donald Eggers

Donald Eggers has started 6 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: Classic fix-and-flip in Portland, OR

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $546,000
Cash invested: $49,000
Sale price: $595,000

Classic fix and flip. We had 3 exit strategies, and ultimately went with the safest and least amount of time invested. This was our first long-distance flip, which was about 3 hours from our local market.

Brass tacks:
4 months into the deal
Visited the property a total of 5 times
Hired a contractor local in that area
Split just about $100,000 between my partner and I. (I had additional carrying costs from a HELOC, which meant I walked with around $45,000)

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The delta between purchase price and ARV was the most appealing. However, we had multiple exit strategies. With this particular partner, we've done 2 flips together and both times agreed on a quicker exit strategy. That was a huge benefit in this case for many reasons, but the most important one, was the softening market.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Aquisition:
We found this deal on a wholesalers website who we keep an eye on. The home was a big interior and exterior clean up with minor construction. We competed against 1 other buyer. We had our offer in first, it was at asking (same as the other buyer), and we were paying cash (they were using hard money). We won out mainly for purchasing without a loan (yes, hard money, although strong, can still go sideways in a deal). We ended up closing in 3 days from making our offer.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash + HELOC + partner

How did you add value to the deal?

Exit Strategies:
Option #1: 2 years - Renovate the upstairs and finish out the basement. Rent out both units to cover the mortgage while we subdivided the land and built properties to sell on the back half of the land.
Option #2: 1 year - Same as option 1, however, instead of building more units, sell off the lots to builders.
Option #3: 4 months - Renovate and sell. We opted to go with a smaller renovation and it was the right choice in the end.

What was the outcome?

4 months from start to finish and a $100,000 profit (split 50/50 with my partner and me).

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We are open to more out of area flips and areas of greater opportunity.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yes, the realtors we worked with were fantastic and would recommend them to anyone in the Portland, OR area. (I am also a licensed agent in the same state). So, I feel as though I am speaking from experience, that paying a little extra and going with a stellar sales team was more than worth it than trying to sell it ourselves out of area.

Post: Classic fix-and-flip in Portland, OR

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $546,000
Cash invested: $49,000
Sale price: $595,000

Classic fix and flip. We had 3 exit strategies, and ultimately went with the safest and least amount of time invested. This was our first long-distance flip, which was about 3 hours from our local market.

Brass tacks:
4 months into the deal
Visited the property a total of 5 times
Hired a contractor local in that area
Split just about $100,000 between my partner and I. (I had additional carrying costs from a HELOC, which meant I walked with around $45,000).

Aquisition:
We found this deal on a wholesalers website who we keep an eye on. The home was a big interior and exterior clean up with minor construction. We competed against 1 other buyer. We had our offer in first, it was at asking (same as the other buyer), and we were paying cash (they were using hard money). We won out mainly for purchasing without a loan (yes, hard money, although strong, can still go sideways in a deal). We ended up closing in 3 days from making our offer.

Exit Strategies:
Option #1: 2 years - Renovate the upstairs and finish out the basement. Rent out both units to cover the mortgage while we subdivided the land and built properties to sell on the back half of the land.
Option #2: 1 year - Same as option 1, however, instead of building more units, sell off the lots to builders.
Option #3: 4 months - Renovate and sell. We opted to go with a smaller renovation and it really helped. There was downward compression on pricing with local comps, high interest rates, and a softening buyer pool.

We opted for option 3 for the safest bet in a stagnating market and tight funds. We were very lucky to exit when we did and had a great real estate sales team to help. Because we were out of market, I decided not to sell myself (as a licensed broker), and instead, rely on the local professionals. We interviewed 3 realtors:

Realtors:
Realtor #1: 6% sales fee - very friendly but very "salesy". I really liked the wife and husband team, and got along great. However, they did not have conviction in the sales price we wanted, nor confidence in the comps that they pulled.
Realtor #2: 3% sales fee - did not get along with this realtor at all. He was agitated and seemed like he didn't want to be there. He immediately started diminishing the sales proposition I had for the house. Every positive I brought up he had a negative rebuttal. His suggested price was about $75k under what we ended up selling it at. It was not a great personality fit, nor a good business relationship.
Realtor #3: 4% sales fee - was very straight forward and objective. He came prepared and had great experience. He also had a great team. During the interview process, he spoke plainly and objectively and understood the plan. During the process, the communication and execution was spot on.

We opted for realtor #3 would be happy to give their recommendation if you are selling in the Portland area.

Contractors:
Found our contractor from an old contact referral. We tried some craigslist and marketplace ads. We compared 3 total bids. Luckily the personal referral had the most competitive bid and ended up going that direction. Ultimately, we were very happy with our decision.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The delta between purchase price and ARV was the most appealing. However, we had multiple exit strategies. With this particular partner, we've done 2 flips together and both times agreed on a quicker exit strategy. That was a huge benefit in this case for many reasons, but the most important one, was the softening market.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

We found this deal on a wholesalers website who we keep an eye on. The home was a big interior and exterior clean up with minor construction. We competed against 1 other buyer. We had our offer in first, it was at asking (same as the other buyer), and we were paying cash (they were using hard money). We won out mainly for purchasing without a loan (yes, hard money, although strong, can still go sideways in a deal). We ended up closing in 3 days from making our offer.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash + HELOC + partner

How did you add value to the deal?

Exterior and interior clean up, minor construction

What was the outcome?

4 months from start to finish and a $100,000 profit (split 50/50 with my partner and me).

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We are open to more out of area flips and areas of greater opportunity.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yes, the realtors we worked with were fantastic and would recommend them to anyone in the Portland, OR area. (I am also a licensed agent in the same state). So, I feel as though I am speaking from experience, that paying a little extra and going with a stellar sales team was more than worth it than trying to sell it ourselves out of area.

Post: Rent by the Room

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

@James Carlson

Hey James, thanks for that, I totally agree! I am also an agent in Central Oregon, which like Denver, is an extremely tight market. Many investors are eating cash-flow with 20% or less down. With that said, I have 5% down in this property, and cash-flowing more than a lot of STRs. I agree, it is a great option for people like me with a little baby portfolio.

What's next (right now): we are currently working on flips. We just finished our second of three flips from the last year and just got it under contract. The third we're going to try to keep as a rental.

What's next (in the future): development. We are looking for houses with larger lots and favorable zoning to utilize our owner occupied loans and subdivide and build while we work there. We are also dabbling in investor funded projects but nothing has stuck, YET!

How about you? How is Colorado, and where do you find yourself on your journey?

Post: Live in Fix and Hold

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Redmond.

Purchase price: $340,000
Cash invested: $68,000

PP: $340,000 with $10k in sellers closing costs

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Low purchase price and owner-occupied loan to keep down payment and carrying costs low to fund the construction costs.
The price and value of the home would hold strong in an extreme market shift (which we could have possibly been facing).

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Listed on the MLS. There were several offers but I won out because I would take on the terrible tenants. After the inspection, we renegotiated to wait until the tenants were vacated.

How did you finance this deal?

5% down conventional owner-occupied loans.

How did you add value to the deal?

Tore down to the drywall and renovated.

What was the outcome?

ARV is 75k above our all-in-costs.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The same amount of work would be involved for a deal 3x as large, focusing on larger deals.
Bad tenants will cost you 100's of thousands of dollars.
Business associates make better friends than friends make as business associates.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

I worked with a friend on my loan and wish I hadn't. I was trying to do him a favor and he ended up being more expensive and making mistakes that cost me $2,700.

Post: Rent by the Room

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Redmond.

Purchase price: $376,000
Cash invested: $20,000

House hack owner-occupied investment turned to long-term hold.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The most conservative way to break into the investing market.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I bought it from a new home builder I worked for in a market I could afford.

How did you finance this deal?

Owner occupied 5% down conventional loan.

How did you add value to the deal?

I added a 5th bedroom to a 4 bedroom 3 bath house.

What was the outcome?

I lived here for 2 years before buying my second house and rented out each of the rooms. Each secondary room (4) is $850/mo and the primary room is $1,050/mo totaling in $4,450 in gross rents.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

House hack/rent by the room is best with a high bedroom and bathroom count.
I make sure that there is 1 bathroom per 2 tenants/rooms.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Kip Pierson with Northwestern Home Loans in Central Oregon
Hayden Homes in Central Oregon

Post: Traditional Fix and Flip

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $345,000
Cash invested: $101,000
Sale price: $565,000

Traditional fix and flip in a very tight market sold with 40-year high interest rates (Oct 2023).

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Increase cash reserves for larger purchases.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

A business partner and I pooled out money to purchase this home in cash (not hard money) from a wholesaler. It was listed at $305,000 and we bought it for $345,000. The only reason we got it was because the other offers were hard money instead of actual cash and they had to close quickly. They even took our offer over another offer $5k higher.

How did you finance this deal?

A business partner an I pooled our cash for the purchase 50/50 and we split the construction costs 50/50. I used a HELOC on construction costs.

How did you add value to the deal?

Complete remodel.

What was the outcome?

We sold the property in 7 days 10k less than the list price and shared a profit of 100k.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Get demo done as quickly as possible with a larger crew
Have a clear vision for the property up front
Having a higher quality finish drove an emotional appeal for the property and got it sold very quickly in a tough market to sell

Post: How do you split your deals with investors?

Donald Eggers
Pro Member
Posted
  • Redmond, OR
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 4

What are some ways you split your deals between you and an investor(s) when you're not bringing any cash to the table?

I'm looking to introduce my first deal to an investor (or two investors to split), and will broker the deal. I want to come out of it with some portion of equity, but also want want to keep the deal sweat enough for the investors to enter. What are some of your ways to split deals up when you don't have the money to put down yourself?

Deeper dive: 7 unit rental property, cosmetic maintenance, 5% cap rate with under market rental rates, 6% cap with a 10% increase in rents (still very competitive rental rates in a community with low rental inventory). Secondary market with huge growth over the past 5 years and increasing. Building has 0% vacancies over the past few years.