Thanks for the responses, yes house is heavily distressed, basically a gut inside. Yes, VA loan, should have mentioned that. Since we have some local responders, the house is in Killeen, decent older neighborhood, not high value but everything is up 20+ percent over the last year. My initial MAO was about 40k but with things the way they are right now I would be comfortable bumping it up to 50k but still a pretty big spread to 70k needed to pay it off and honestly, I would need some meat on the bone as it is a heavier rehab, at least for me.
Just to offer a little more info for the curious, I pulled up the original loan docs on the county clerk's site and the original loan was in 2007 for about 82k so I guess there were a decent number of missed payments, penalties, etc along the way. The seller told me that there was some kind of "modification" that made the payments higher a few years back but there is no refinance or anything filed so not sure if they were rolling late fees in to long term payments or similar. I also discovered that the lender referenced, Midfirst Bank, just took over the loan from the original lender, Supreme Lending, about a week before he acceleration letter was sent out. Not sure if this is common practice to sell the debt right before foreclosing or if this might be useful?
At the end of the day I would like to help get the seller out from under the property and create a deal for myself if possible of course, rental or flip, whatever makes sense. Based on the above responses and the info learned I have a few more questions.
1. Does anyone know/have experience with trying to get the loan current at this point? In other words, is something like that even doable considering it is post acceleration by a newly assigned note holder? I have been a little hesitant to do long term Sub2 but honestly, deals have been tight and I am pretty confident that at worst I could get out of it flat or with a small profit if it got called, etc.
2. Regarding the fact that the new note holder just bought the debt (I assume at a reduced price), do you think there is an avenue to try and get a lower payoff without a short sale? From pretty much everything I have read (many, many times) it seems like there is pretty much no chance of this and that banks/lenders just don't really negotiate with people outside of short sale, deed in lieu, etc but not sure if the new lienholder situation might change that.
3. Although it doesn't seem like the best path since the house would have to be listed, is short sale even a possibility at this point since they are already moving to foreclosure?
Again, many thanks!