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All Forum Posts by: Darius Lipsey

Darius Lipsey has started 16 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Could too many inspections kill deal?

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6

Hey BP,

My first duplex is under contract and will be financing using a VA home loan. I have a whole home inspection scheduled that will include visual mold, and radon inspections as well. The seller is paying for termite inspection. My original intent was to get plumbing, electrical, roof, and HVAC inspections in addition to whatever else the whole home inspector recommended for my own piece of mind.

Well, I was urged by a local investor to take caution and only get follow up inspections if red flags showed up in the general inspection report. He said by getting as many inspections as I can, combined with the pressure from VA loan that, I could be killing the deal.

How have some of the more seasoned investors handled more inspections than needed on the buyer side as well as on the seller side of the equation of VA or FHA loan?

Hey Joel, I like the idea for sure. Definitely would be interested. When you say you want to work with only multi family owners/managers are you meaning duplex and triplexes in addition to larger apartment buildings?

Post: What would you do to start?

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6
The forums are packed with info. As well as the podcast. You should find all the info you need between those. I'm guilty of listening to quite a bit of BP podcast on my job as well they are quite addicting. There a quite a few investors from the California area own investment properties in Indiana. Have you considered partnerships?

Post: Fourplex in rough area

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Bettina F.:

Our building is in a class B commercial transitioning to residential area.  The buildings to the west of our building are commercial, the buildings to the east of us are residential. Definitely a blue collar area.  Still a low crime area.  My tenants are WalMart employees, hairdressers, medical assistants.  They barely make 2.5 - 3 times rent.

We worked on upgrading the the exterior of our building with improved landscaping, and painting the carports.  We instituted a stricter rental agreement, kept all tenants on month to month, and started enforcing rental agreement clauses.  We gave 30 day notices to the slow payers.  This cleaned out a lot of trash. It turned out one tenant (whom we had nicknamed "Tat Man") was intimidating some of the other tenants -- but no one told us until Tat Man was gone.  Units were remodeled as they turned over.  We screened using the standard methods.  We insist on 1 months + security deposit at move in.  Our tenants may need to borrow from family to get in, but I don't want a tenant who does not have the social capital to be able to come up with funds.  We do not "work with" tenants.

We self manage, and are at the building twice a week, mowing, picking up trash, and general eyes on.  It gets easier and easier.  We are in an area of raising rents, and our tenant pool is actually improving.  Rents are rising faster the wages in my area.  We rarely have turnover and when we do, we are attracting newly divorced moms who are unable to qualify for the newer, fancier apartment complexes.  

The building cash flows like a dream, and we are very happy with our purchase.  It does however, require active management and enforcement of rules -- sort of like parenting teenagers.  

I remember how I was for my parents as a teenager...this should be fun and eye opening to say the least. Lol

Post: Fourplex in rough area

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Fred Heller:

Hmm, so let me see if I have this right. It's a solid street without a lot of violence, drugs, etc. And it cash flows quite a bit. But it's somehow a "semi-rough area?" Honestly, that sounds like a great investment to me.

One of the hardest things for me to overcome when looking for properties for my clients is separating where I would want to live from where would be a good investment. The reality is where we would want to live is usually not a good rental property because the cost of the property is too high.

Having said that, there are a couple of caveats. If the property has not been well maintained by the seller, then you are going to be nickeled and dimed to death with repairs. So make sure you get a good quality inspection before you buy so you know what you're getting into.

And lower-income tenants literally live paycheck to paycheck. And if there's any kind of disruption to their lives, they will probably have trouble paying the rent. I'm dealing with that right now with a tenant who has been very good about paying the rent. He wasn't able to work for three weeks because of Harvey and he couldn't pay September's rent. But FEMA is going to pay him for the lost wages and we're waiting for the check.

So with the limited information, it sounds to me like it's a pretty good deal. 

The property is on a decent block but within a few blocks it definitely gets pretty rough. The city is working to add some community service programs in that area as well which could be good in the future. Right now some of the tenants have bed sheets and the like on the windows. Outside of a few minor things it looks like a fairly well kept building. 

Post: Fourplex in rough area

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Taylor Chiu:

We have a property like this. More time intensive, but it also cash flows much better than anything else you'll find locally at the moment.

Would the numbers support a property manager? That could make it more hands-off for you.

The numbers definitely support a property mananger. I'd like to manage the propert myself for a few reasons. #1 I want to have the first hand experience to be able to convey later down the road to a  future property manager my expectations #2 the established major property management companies don't have great reputations for caring about properties

Post: Fourplex in rough area

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6

I'm a first time investor considering putting an offer on a four plex that location on a solid street in what I'd call a semi-rough area, I wouldn't really want to live there, but as far as I know there isn't a ton of violence, drugs, etc in the immediate area, but definitely more such than a more high income area. At a little below market rents and over conservative numbers it cash flows quite a bit. I know a lot of investors wouldn't invest in lower income areas especially war zones or places that questionable because high evictions, tenants destroying property and all types of hell. So I'm wondering a few things from an experienced point of view what are the differences between investing in SFR Versus MFRs in semi rough areas. Is it possible to get decent tenant with a reasonably strict application process and lease that's enforced? Has making an effort to care without being soft or lax on policies mad differences in landlord/tenant relations in these areas? Or is it a lost cause?

Post: Flip a Single Family to a Side by Side Duplex

Darius LipseyPosted
  • South Bend, IN
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 6
One step would be to check with your county to see how it's zoned and petition for mulitifamily zoning if it isn't already. I believe that zoning and use being aligned could also affect the insurance. Meaning you may not be able to have adequate duplex insurance if it's zoned as a single family.

@Aaron Linden I sent you a colleague request

Hey, BP!!! Looking for a real estate attorney operating in the South Bend/Mishawaka area to draft a lease or look one over. Any recommendations?