All Forum Posts by: Derek Boxdell

Great feedback David! I'd not considered Rentometer, I just looked at it a moment ago and it looks like the rents are actually where the owner says they are. Additionally, I did actually use last years taxes instead of the new sales price (which negatively impacts the numbers).

I think you're right regarding the property being a dud, at least on the surface. I did incorporate the water and electricity (the seller mentioned that the renters paid for their own), with the PITI eating up that much of the income (as you'd mentioned), the utilities would just push the whole thing over the edge.

Thanks again for the quick reply and the second set of eyes. Glad I posted instead of keeping this to myself, you made this super simple.

Regards,

Thanks for the quick reply and heads up David... reposted, with a link to the calc.

Thanks again!!

**Reposting based on Davids suggestion... Thanks David!

Hi Bigger Pockets!

I'm new to the investment world and figured it was about time I come with my hat in hand asking for some help from the community (I've lurked for long enough). I've been using the Rental/BRRRR calculator for a few weeks now and I've run into a patch of properties where the stated (from the listings) cap rates are in the 7-10% range but the numbers just don't add up. Before I start pulling my hair out, I want to make sure i'm using the calculators properly.

I've run into a few instances where the numbers look something similar to below for a 3/2 A | 3/2 B duplex. When I plug this into the calc while also accounting for 5% Maint, 5% Vacancy, 8% CapEx and $0 management (it's local)... I come up with negative cashflow.

Income & Expenses (Annual)

Gross Annual Income: $24,300 

Insurance Expense: $1,440 

Gross Annual Expenses: $2,120 

Gross Inc Multp: 11.32 

Net Annual Income: $22,180 

Capitalization Rate: 8.07% 

Taxes: $3,761 

List Price: $279,900

The above is what the listing gave me... using std 4-6% interest over 30 years I keep coming up negative. The operating expenses above though look awfully low for the year, almost as if vacancy, maint and Capex savings aren't accounted for.

Can anyone help set me straight... or is this actually a bad property (at its current list price)?

Thanks for the help!!!!

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*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Hi Bigger Pockets!

I'm new to the investment world and figured it was about time I come with my hat in hand asking for some help from the community (I've lurked for long enough). I've been using the Rental/BRRRR calculator for a few weeks now and I've run into a patch of properties where the stated (from the listings) cap rates are in the 7-10% range but the numbers just don't add up. Before I start pulling my hair out, I want to make sure i'm using the calculators properly.

I've run into a few instances where the numbers look something similar to below for a 3/2 A | 3/2 B duplex. When I plug this into the calc while also accounting for 5% Maint, 5% Vacancy, 8% CapEx and $0 management (it's local)... I come up with negative cashflow.

Income & Expenses (Annual)

Gross Annual Income: $24,300 Insurance Expense: $1,440 Gross Annual Expenses: $2,120 Gross Inc Multp: 11.32 Net Annual Income: $22,180 Capitalization Rate: 8.07% Taxes: $3,761 List Price: $279,900

The above is what the listing gave me... using std 4-6% interest over 30 years I keep coming up negative. The operating expenses above though look awfully low for the year, almost as if vacancy, maint and Capex savings aren't accounted for.

Can anyone help set me straight... or is this actually a bad property (at its current list price)?

Thanks for the help!!!!