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All Forum Posts by: Denise Evans

Denise Evans has started 56 posts and replied 1448 times.

Post: WHAT IS A SHORT SALE

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
  • Posts 1,573
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I had a BofA that took two years, but only because they kept rejecting the offer as too low, we'd appeal the appraisal, the old one expired, then we needed a new one, and so on. But, we were happy with it taking so long.  We managed a 5BR/5BA brick home on 2 beautifully landscaped acres down to a $45,000 appraised value, which supported our $40,000 offer.

Other than that one, the longest was 5 months, but it was an appraisal dispute also. We got it for our price. They wanted 3 non-distressed sales as comparables. I was able to show that every single sale in the entire condo complex for the prior two years--over three dozen--was a foreclosure or short sale. So, we got that one for the price we wanted.

The others typically take 45-60 days, sometimes as long as 75, but that is very rare.

Post: Looking for some help with an Interest Rate lock

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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Short sales typically take 45 to 60 days.  I've rarely had one drag on, and when they do, I ask for a supervisor and break the log jam. If the person doing the paperwork does everything properly, the only hold up is the bank ordering an appraisal. Appraisal management companies typically guarantee a five business day turnaround, so that would not be the problem. After receipt of the paper and the appraisal and certain other internally-ordered information (credit report, for example) the document processor can certify a complete package in a few days. The  negotiator then feeds all the numbers into the computer, and the algorithms spit out an answer.  This is not 2008 or 2009, folks. The kinks have been worked out of the system.

Post: Criteria for students housing

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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Student housing is generally on automatic renewal, with students signing leases in October or November of this year for leases from August 2017 through July 2018. Check in your market to see what they do. If you miss the student window, you will have huge vacancies for an entire year.

Make sure the parents always sign as guarantors unless the kids are under legal age. Then the parents must sign as co-signers. The difference is, if the kid reaches majority of rejects the lease, a parent guarantor is also off the hook but a parent co-signer is not.

Specify access rights in the lease. Parents typically want access (even if they don't have their own keys) for surprise visits, and to get the kid's stuff if he drops out. Unless they are tenants, they are not entitled to that. Unless the lease specifically says they can have access, in which case they can.

Student housing is generally management intensive.  I recommend monthly inspections. I also recommend an online payment portal.

Post: Is it too late to approach a foreclosure?

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
  • Posts 1,573
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I would not limit myself to short sales of active properties listed on MLS.

The withdrawn or expired listings are good places to look for opportunities. Look for things with the word "lender" or "short" in the comments field, as in "subject to lender approval" or "potential short sale."  Many of those potential short sales fail because the property is listed at a price that is too high to generate any interest, and so never receives an offer.

I love short sales as an investment route. Yes, they are extra work. But, you can generally buy properties at 15% to 20% less than fair market value, you have plenty of time for due diligence and to raise cash, and you have none of the competition you encounter at auctions or post-foreclosure REO sales.

"In foreclosure" is generally a nebulous term. It might mean that the borrower is in default and waiting for the ax to fall. It might mean the lender's file has been transferred to its foreclosure department for pre-foreclosure inspections and possibly property management, workup and analysis. It  might mean notices are now running in the newspaper.

With rare exceptions, I can usually stop a foreclosure with a valid short sale offer, as long as there is at least one week left before the auction. You will need to have ready to send the lender (servicing company, usually) the following:

  • Authorization letter from borrower letting you talk to the lender. There is no particular form to start the dialogue. Many lenders have particular forms they want filled out afterwards;
  • Borrower's full name, address, property address (if different from borrower's address), account number, last four digits of SSN and sometimes a birth date.
  • Fully executed contract.
  • Copy of earnest money check. This can usually be as low as $500, even on a many hundreds of thousands of dollars of purchase price.
  • Estimated settlement sheet showing net proceeds to lender. The bottom line, where the title company usually puts money to/from Seller, must show $0. All net proceeds after payment of normal and customary closing expenses and a real estate commission not exceeding 6% should go to the lender. If there is a 2nd lien, you can show $3,000 going to the second lien holder. If there is more than 1 junior lien on the property, pass on it unless the opportunity is worth all the extra effort it will take to get them to sign off.
  • Ideally, proof of funds for the equity portion of the purchase. If you are trying to stop a foreclosure, it should be among the papers you end the bank first, when you request a postpone of the auction. This gives you credibility as a real purchaser, and not some desperate attempt to buy more time, by a friend of the borrower. You will need it eventually,as part of the short sale package. Proof of funds can consist of a copy of a bank statement or investment account statement, or a letter on bank or investment company letterhead saying you will have the cash available at closing for the equity portion of the purchase.
  • Ideally, loan pre-approval letter for any financed portion of the purchase.  You do not need this to stop a foreclosure, but you will need it before your short sale will be approved. It just adds credibility if you have it when you are asking for a foreclosure postponement.

The lender will then tell you what other documents you will need. Usually it is some combination of a form with monthly revenues and living expenses, plus assets and liabilities. Some sort of hardship statement for why the borrower cannot continue making his payments. Typical reasons are loss of job, reduced income from job or business, divorce, death in family, health issues affecting employment, overuse of credit cards, medical bills. 

You will need at least the last year's tax return for the borrower. Some lenders want more than one year. Some want just the 1040 pages and some want all schedules.  Pay attention to the tax returns and the information they show. If they show rental, royalty, or dividend income, but the assets/liabilities sheet does not reveal any rental real estate, oil and gas interests, or stocks/bonds, then the negotiator will think they are being scammed. You can simply attach an explanatory sheet, such as "Rental real estate previously owned by borrower has been foreclosed. A copy of the foreclosure deed is attached.  All stocks went to wife in divorce. Copy of divorce decree attached.  Sold all oil/gas interests to raise money to send kid to college and for living expenses. Copies of sales documents attached."

They will want copies of all bank statements for the prior one to three months. Borrowers can typically have up to 3 months of living expenses in the bank, and the lender will not require bringing cash to closing. If there is more than that, the lender will want some of it. They want all pages of the bank statements. If the bank statements say "Page 1 of 7, Page 2 of 7, etc" and you omit Page 7 because it is just the reconciliation page, the lender will reject your package as incomplete. And, they want copies of statements, not a print-out of the online account activity.  Virtually all banks allow you to download an print prior statements.

If the bank allows payment of $3,000 at closing to the borrower, for moving expenses, it will need proof the borrower is still living at the property. That is usually a copy of a recent utility bill.

If there are junior liens, the first lender will need written agreement from junior lien holders approving the estimated settlement sheet showing their payments. If you can't get junior lien holders to release their liens, the short sale is doomed. So, the first lien holder wants proof the juniors are on board, otherwise it is a waste of time. If NationStar is the second lien holder, they will not give you approval unless the first lien holder approves first. Don't stress. First lien holders know NationStar is bizarre.  They make an exception for them, and will approve a short sale even without the NationStar prior approval.

Good luck!

Post: Brand New Investor in Lubbock, Texas

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
  • Posts 1,573
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Congratulations, @Marita Tedder. I LOVE short sales as an investment vehicle. 

Don't forget about your personal residence, also. Many investors buy properties to use as their personal residence, and then fix them up and sell them two years later. Under current tax law, as long as you've occupied a property as your personal residence for 24 of the 60 months prior to sale, you do not have to pay any taxes on the profit, up to a $500,000 maximum exclusion for married couples.  If you keep flipping every two years, you can build up a really nice equity with no income taxes.

Also, think about buying fourplexes and living in one of the units. You get cheap fixed rate long term mortgage money for the entire loan.

Post: New lead motivated seller, I need short sell advice

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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When banks evaluate a short sale, they look at the appraisal, not the loan balance. If you are able to assume the mortgage, they will usually waive past due interest and fees. If the loan is owned by a securitized trust, they cannot legally allow you to assume the mortgage. They might let you buy subject to. An assumption is technically a  new mortgage. The securitized trusts had to take title to all mortgage loans at once, with only a 90 day window to pick up stragglers due to mistakes in paperwork. That was the price tag of getting conduit tax treatment, in which the trust is not taxed for profits, only the bondholders to whom the profits are distributed. The reason so many of the famous "show me the note" foreclosure contests worked is because the trusts did not actually own the notes, and could not take title so many years after the trusts closed. Allowing you to take subject to is a different matter. I have not read the document packages for the securitized loans, so I don't know if that is allowed. It might not be. All of that being said, it doesn't hurt to get an authorization letter from the borrower and ask the bank or servicing company that exact question.

Post: Property Manager is threatening illegal actions over lease break

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I thought the lease expired at the end of December. When does the lease expire, according to the normal term stated in the lease?

Post: New lead motivated seller, I need short sell advice

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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With a debt that has been in default since March, there might not be an opportunity to cure and just pick up the payments. I think in PA a lender must send notice of default and opportunity to cure, within 60 days of default. Borrower then has 30 days to cure or work something out. I might be wrong. My law license is in Texas, and I actually live in Alabama. Having been born in Pennsylvania is not enough to qualify me to know about PA foreclosure law:(

It is very hard to get a securitized trust, or a servicer with a HUD-insured loan, to agree to buying the property subject to the existing mortgage. It's outside their normal framework and there are no rules for doing it. I'm not even sure securitized trusts are allowed to approve buying subject to. It may violate some of the conditions of the conduit tax treatment rules.

All of that being said, I think it is important to simultaneously pursue as many strategies as possible. One of them is bound to work.

Post: New lead motivated seller, I need short sell advice

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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That makes no sense, unless he's doing a 7 to wipe out personal debts and then an 11 to save the business.  Chapter 11 is pretty expensive. 

Stress to him the advantages of a short sale because his credit score will rehabilitate more quickly.  Also, bankruptcy stays on your credit report for ten years. Most other bad debts stay on for a maximum of 7 years.

He can also usually negotiate with credit card companies and pay them a reduced lump sum without having to go through bankruptcy. It's easier on borrower and lawyer to simply run through a Chapter 7.  But, the better result usually comes from negotiation and avoiding 7. Creditors know the ugly future of a Chapter 7. They are willing to negotiate dramatic write downs.  

As far as credit card debt, he will probably not be able to get rid of some of it, if it was incurred in prior 90 days before filing. It's important to pay attention to "look back" time limits before deciding when to file for bankruptcy.

Post: New lead motivated seller, I need short sell advice

Denise EvansPosted
  • JD, CCIM , Real Estate Broker
  • Tuscaloosa, AL
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@Christian Bors If there are any assets to protect, Chapter 7 makes no sense. Some  high income individuals are not allowed to file Chapter 7, but must file Chapter 11 or 13 and propose a plan to pay creditors.  Credit scores will rehabilitate more quickly after a short sale than after a foreclosure or a bankruptcy. Bankruptcy is embarrassing. The 341 meeting of the creditors and any adversary proceedings are humiliating for many people.  Many lenders allow the short selling owner to get up to $3,000 in closing proceeds to cover moving expenses. So, in a bankruptcy, borrower pays the lawyer and has nothing left at the end. In a short sale, bank pays the closing expenses and real estate agents and many times the borrower walks away with $3,000, and its all private.