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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 7 posts and replied 30 times.

Post: How to Build a Buyer's List

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

I've Built Some MONSTER Buyer's Lists Over the Past 5 Years.

There are a few schools of though surrounding Cash Buyers-one being to find the Buyers first, then go find the deal.  And the second, the path I've taken to succeed, was finding the deals first, then using my deal as the "bait"-my reason-to attract the buyers.  I've found that buyers are busy and they don't have a ton of time to talk on the phone-unless they're talking about their next deal.  Then they open their arms and welcome the interruption because they're about to make money.

First, find an email provider.  I started with Mailchimp because it's free for a list size of less than 2,000.  You can build an insanely profitable real estate business with a list of 2,000 or less.  Once you've set up your buyer's list email provider account, it's time to start finding buyers.

Here's a few of the systems I've used for finding buyers.

1. Direct Mail-Using the "Find Cash Buyers Now" program, or using an MLS public record search (solid agents can help you with this) I researched all cash sales in a specific price point and neighborhood and mailed them a letter. I chose the neighborhood because I happened to have a deal for sale there.

2. Craigslist-WARNING: Tons of Wholesalers masquerading as Cash Buyers on Craigslist.   But in the chaos are REAL Cash Buyers too.  I have found that the best way to attract real buyers here is to have deals For Sale. 

You can also turn off the Craigslist relay setting and reveal your email address-along with the person's responding to your ad-and collect email address as people reply to your ad.  Be wary of using your primary email address for this secondary Craigslist tactic-others will use this method to build their spam lists also.

3. Networking-I've met many buyers over the years ( and still do) at face to face networking events.  The best way to go to a networking event is to be the main presenter there-or sponsor a table.  But if you're just getting started, showing up with business cards will get the job done.

4. Start a Real Estate Investor Association-You can start your own networking event.  We have done this in several cities using Meetup.com.  The cool thing about Meetup is that the website's algorithm suggests your group to other buyers you normally wouldn't come across-along with many other very interesting & valuable people in your local area.  Being the organizer of the Meetup allows you to email the group members directly through their site.  

You do not get to scrape members email addresses-so you are building two separate email lists and must forward emails separately through two systems.

5.  Bigger Pockets-Bigger Pockets has been a source of several of my business partners over the years and is one of my favorite places to network online.  For me, the best part about the BP Buyers/members is the fact that they are always in "Learn Mode".  They are always open to new ideas and generally know a bit more than many of the cash buyers from other sources-for example, those buyers responding to my direct mail campaigns.

6. Do More Deals-The more deals you do, the more buyers you'll attract.  I've always said that as a wholesaler & rehabber, the KEY TO SUCCESS is developing a steady pipeline of DEAL FLOW.  You need opportunities crossing your desk.  Those opportunities will help you develop your buyers list over time.

My final thought about building a buyers list is getting started, as in ACTUALLY DOING IT.  I was in the business for  5 years before I got deadly serious about building my list.  I was successful enough before the list, but WOW, after I developed systems for exploding my list, I discovered I could sell properties quickly and for more money than before.  

So you might as well get started right now!!

Post: Ever Witnessed a Wholesaler being ABUSED by Cash Buyers?

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Real Estate, as a market is  a function of opinion of price.

An appraiser gives an opinion of price and then the market does not produce a  buyer anywhere near that appraised price.  Did he do something ethically wrong?

Money is made quickly in real estate in many cases because the person bringing the property to market has ability to produce a higher sale price.  

The real estate market itself is not a perfect, functioning market.  People with certain skill sets & assets have the ability to create better markets for their product.  This is what I did here on this deal-I created a better market for an unusual deal on a busy street located in a hot market.  

Post: Ever Witnessed a Wholesaler being ABUSED by Cash Buyers?

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

@Mike Cumbie

With the house being on a main road-ton of traffic-and nearly rent-ready condition, it was a bit of an unknown.

It would not have sold for $135K to an End Buyer, but would appraise for that price.

Real money ARV on a resale would have been about $105K and needed about $35K for a flip reno.

As a buy & hold it needed somewhere in the $10K-$20K range, or less if the guy did the work himself.

Deal was also in a quickly appreciating market-Atlanta Suburbs-so the buyer is going to hold this deal long term and get the last laugh.  As long as the market remains strong.

When we signed the deal, we made it for a price we knew we could fix & flip & make a small, fair profit.  The hot market, along with the Auction style multiple offer, above asking price situation that developed rewarded us with a strong assignment.  Honestly, it was a bit of a surprise how high this one went.

The asset of my expensive & large buyer network built over the last 10 years in the markets I operate certainly helps create the high sale price. It is faster and more effective than even the MLS has been for us.

Post: Ever Witnessed a Wholesaler being ABUSED by Cash Buyers?

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

This week in Atlanta, my partner and I closed a $45,000 assignment on a wholesale deal.

This deal was brought to us by a newer wholesaler who was hoping to make a few $G's on the deal.  In fact, he would have been thrilled to make $5,000.  Most new wholesalers would. 

He brought us the deal BEFORE contract, and entrusted us (we have a TON of experience closing deals) to do the negotiation and contract the deal. We probably got it for $20K less than he was going to offer anyway-we signed for $37,500. The ARV would be $125K-$135K with about $10K-$20K in renovation.

We priced the deal to move at $67,500 and pumped it out to my Buyer's List ( about 20,000 buyers) and we got a frenzy of activity.  

With multiple, above asking offers, we closed the deal at $85K and after some closing costs, we split a little more than $45K three ways.  

It was a great deal for all 3 of us.  

These are my absolute favorite deals-where essentially a Bird Dog brings a lead and I treat them to a partnership split in the deal.  

I see so many Cash Buyers give wholesalers a few grand for bringing a deal and then go off and make $50K-$60K  or even $100K after doing the flip.  I'm not arguing that the Cash Buyer doesn't deserve the lion's share of the deal, but I love being in a position to get much healthier Wholesale Fees for my  Wholesale partners.

You can bet for the guy that just whacked up that $45K assignment with us this afternoon-it's going to be a good Christmas this year!!

Post: Illinois Agreement of Sale for Vacant Land

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Thanks Derek.  I'll look into it.

Post: Illinois Agreement of Sale for Vacant Land

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Does anyone have a standard agreement of sale for buying vacant land in Illinois?

Thanks

Post: New to the Chicago Market

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Thanks for coming out.  Looking forward to our next RING Presents Investor Empowerment Series event on May 25th.

Post: First Right of Refusal Documents

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Does anyone have a good, record-able template for First Right of Refusal?

Post: Investor Empowerment Series Meetup - Wholesaling 101

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Thank You for the Introduction Joe!!

I'm Looking Forward to Providing Chicago 's Investment Community with an Informative Presentation on Wholesaling at this coming Week's Event.

INTERESTED IN A FREE COURSE ON WHOLESALING?

I will give everyone in attendance access to my exact methods-even my business plan-for becoming a high volume wholesaler & house flipper in Chicago & Philadelphia.  The info you'll receive is exactly what I'm using to sell 10-20 deals per month.  ( I'm not selling anything, in fact, the ONLY THING I SELL IS PROFITABLE REAL ESTATE DEALS)

See You at the Event !!

Post: Partnering up

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 108
  • Votes 51

Well Said @Jay Hinrichs & @Hattie Dizmond !! That is the advice I'd offer a family member in @Tanya Lam's position.