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All Forum Posts by: Davis C.

Davis C. has started 9 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: 2019 purchase, 2018 property tax has no exemptions

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

Thanks, next time if there are exemptions involved I'll insist on escrow.

Post: 2019 purchase, 2018 property tax has no exemptions

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1


Originally posted by @Joe Ramirez:

Hi @Davis C.  Sounds like a very similar situation i went through...  check out my post about it here:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/664/topics/672346-cook-county-tax-exemption-treatment-on-flip

I was able to get the ball moving by talking directly to the county about my issue.

https://www.cookcountytreasurer.com/contactusbyphone.aspx

Thanks, that was a helpful post, it does sound very similar and gives me hope since the owners were in possession all of 2018.

You said you were working with previous owners to get a refund. Does the county need them to be involved? This may be a problem since the previous owners were in a nursing home and under guardianship of a bank.

I spoke to my attorney, and he's waiting to hear back from seller's attorney. I'll contact the county for more info, and maybe find out who dropped the ball on this.

Post: 2019 purchase, 2018 property tax has no exemptions

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

Purchased a property March of 2019. Previous owner had homeowners, senior and senior freeze, as reflected in the 1st half 2018 property tax bill.

At closing I was credited 2nd half of 2018 property taxes based on all these exemptions. I received the 2nd half 2018 bill recently, it's in my name and all the exemptions are gone. 

I thought since the property was in the previous owner's possession all of 2018, I would pay the taxes based on their exemptions? If not, shouldn't I have been credited the full estimated amount at closing?

Post: Off-market house, owner financing, closing and attorney questions

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

Looks like I'm purchasing a different property off the MLS instead, the numbers work out better. For anyone in the future looking for this type of info, find an attorney asap. An agent isn't necessary, but can help streamline the process as mentioned by Thomas. I was going to cut my agent in based on that reply, he's submitted tons of offers and it'd be a nice way to compensate him.

FSBO cold calling is definitely a viable way to source deals. After reading about how FSBO are always looking for top dollar and are hard to deal with, one could research themselves out of even trying.

Post: Off-market house, owner financing, closing and attorney questions

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

Seller verbally agreed on a price, will be meeting with them next week to present an offer to sign. The majority I'll be paying cash, but they agreed to seller financing $60k.

I was just making offers on MLS properties through my agent before this. I wasn't expecting to land an off market deal, and I'm now scrambling to fill in my knowledge gaps.

Do I bring in the standard contract my agent uses? I'm guessing I would need an attorney to setup an escrow for the $60k seller financing? How much should I be paying for this type of closing? I'm open to referrals, as my last attorney's fee seemed high ($2k) for a straightforward transaction. 

Unless I'm overthinking this and should handle closing myself? Any advice on what to look out for would be appreciated.

Post: Need foundation repair, bowed basement wall

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Michael Gessner:
I'd have the engineer draw something up depending on the severity, I did one a few years back for a client the foundation was in bed rock and alot of water pressure against it,we back filled 3/4 of the wall with gravel to drain it and relieve the pressure then installed I beams along the interior back wall to reinforce it. Good luck

Old post but for anyone else in a similar situation, get a structural engineer if the bowing is severe. My situation wasn't too bad, I had a foundation company install I-Beams as well. You can also use carbon fiber straps instead, if you don't want to sacrifice interior space in a finished basement. 

Post: No doc cash out refi on rental property in IL?

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

I have a rental property worth $220k, rents for $1500/mo, no mortgage in IL. I am self-employed and was looking at bank statement loans when I found a lender that offered an "investor loan" based on 70% of rental income. My FICO is low at 680, the terms given were 7% 5 year ARM, 2 points + $1500 fees, as well as a prepayment penalty.

I'll be selling the property within a year, and would like to find a similar loan w/o the prepayment penalty, and better terms if available. Even better would be a HELOC based on the same qualifications.

Post: Cook County back taxes/forfeited taxes resolved during closing?

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

Originally posted by @Vincent Incopero:

Assuming that the Seller is on the hook for the payment: Seller's attorney/Title Company needs to go to the  County Treasurer's office and request open item bills. If the property is in Cook County, the original YELLOW open item bills must be brought to closing and presented to the title company so that they can pay the open item bills at Closing (or shortly thereafter)

Assuming that the Buyer is on the hook for the payment: Same mechanics. 

Assuming that neither party wants to do the leg work: Title company will estimate the total amount of OPEN (unpaid taxes) and multiply that figure by 150% and hold that amount in a TI. Title company will charge $175 to hold that sum and pay post closing. Seller to receive excess $$ (approx 1/3 of amount held) around 90 days after closing once the open item bills have been obtained by the Title Co and paid.  [Ie if there are 10k in open taxes, Title Co will hold 15k of Seller's proceeds and refund approx 5k within 90 days after Closing]

IF THE SELLER'S PROCEEDS ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE SMALL, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TRANSACTION, SOMEONE INVOLVED SHOULD GET THE OPEN ITEM BILLS TO AVOID ANY DISPUTES AT CLOSING. AS A FORMER UNDERWRITER AT CHICAGO'S LARGEST TITLE COMPANY, I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN MANY TIMES. THINK AHEAD AND DO THE LEGWORK SO THE DEAL DOESN'T UNRAVEL AT THE CLOSING TABLE.

 Thanks, that's what I was looking for. The yellow open item bills have already been obtained, but will probably have to be reordered as the penalties keep going up every month. I just needed to confirm that this can be taken care of as a prorated credit at closing.

Post: Cook County back taxes/forfeited taxes resolved during closing?

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

They were not purchased, 2 years were forfeited (offered at sale but not purchased). I was hoping someone might know the answer on here before contacting an attorney.

Post: Cook County back taxes/forfeited taxes resolved during closing?

Davis C.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Des Plaines, IL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 1

If there is a property with several years of open back taxes, with a few years forfeited (offered at sale but not purchased), do they need to be paid off before closing?

Or can it be handed like normal, with the debt prorated and credited to the buyer? I assume that would be ok, but since the penalties keep adding up every month, it would add complications.