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All Forum Posts by: David Walley

David Walley has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Quote from @Chad U.:
Quote from @David Walley:

I'll start by telling you I live in Florida, the capital of mobile home parks. I'm considering starting a mobile home brokerage and including a platform where sellers can offer to hold notes on the purchase but have note buyers in position to purchase the note at a discount shortly after closing. In Florida many of the homes are on leased land therefore financing options are limited, especially on older homes even though the homes are in very good condition, even those manufactured as early as the 60's. This isn't to say, that opportunities will not exist on sales of "Land Owned homes as well. 

Many of the buyers are pretty solid buyers but they don't have an acceptable road to financing their purchase. I would suggest to the seller to have a loan agreement drawn up by an attorney and offer terms that will be attractive to a note buyer, ie. Interest rate, healthy down payment, etc, and including preparing for a discounted purchase of the note balance. All notes would be recorded and serviced by a local bank. I understand that non-performing notes are less attractive, thus the recommendation of designing the note so that a discounted purchase of it would still net the seller an acceptable dollar amount. 

So, my questions for those of you who are more experienced are:

1. Am I missing something here that would make this idea nonfunctional, and if not, what suggestions would you give?

2. Are there note buyers that I could have in a pool who would be waiting to buy these notes? 

3. It's my understanding that as the licensed broker, I have to be at arm's length from the financing portion of the transaction, so I'm not clear as to how to go about this part of the transaction. Any suggestions? Could the pool of note buyers look at the purchase as if they were a loan officer and design the note the way they would buy it?

Yes, I am an "Out of the Box thinker"!  I suppose answers to these questions will get me to square 2 of 50. Thanks, folks! I appreciate any advice you might be able to provide! 

Mobile homes that are not affixed to the land are not ideal for note investors, as you cannot foreclose in the same manner as you would a regular property.  These are considered personal property and need to be repossessed the same as one would a car loan.  

Thanks, Chad. I was a Community Manager for a large MHP. Our residents owned their homes and leased the land. We had a local attorney who handled the process, I would follow their direction. I can say, in Florida anyway, it was a pretty simple, direct process. Overall, it took about 2 months. I would say that the offset to this possible drawback for the note buyer would be the exposure to better than average buyers for better than average homes. These communities are far from slums. In the case of the community I managed, it was a pretty, highly sought after park. 

I can see as time goes on that the need for this type of financing is going to increase in many of the communities here simply due to the age of the homes. In the 1960's and 70's Florida EXPLODED with Mobile Home Park Development. They're all over the place!

Another beautiful thing is, the value of these homes continues to increase, especially with the stick built, on-site home shortage that we face, and needing to house the massive amount of people moving to Florida every year. Data shows it has been averaging over 1 million per year since COVID. Purchase transactions are plentiful! 

Thanks again for your feedback!

I'll start by telling you I live in Florida, the capital of mobile home parks. I'm considering starting a mobile home brokerage and including a platform where sellers can offer to hold notes on the purchase but have note buyers in position to purchase the note at a discount shortly after closing. In Florida many of the homes are on leased land therefore financing options are limited, especially on older homes even though the homes are in very good condition, even those manufactured as early as the 60's. This isn't to say, that opportunities will not exist on sales of "Land Owned homes as well. 

Many of the buyers are pretty solid buyers but they don't have an acceptable road to financing their purchase. I would suggest to the seller to have a loan agreement drawn up by an attorney and offer terms that will be attractive to a note buyer, ie. Interest rate, healthy down payment, etc, and including preparing for a discounted purchase of the note balance. All notes would be recorded and serviced by a local bank. I understand that non-performing notes are less attractive, thus the recommendation of designing the note so that a discounted purchase of it would still net the seller an acceptable dollar amount. 

So, my questions for those of you who are more experienced are:

1. Am I missing something here that would make this idea nonfunctional, and if not, what suggestions would you give?

2. Are there note buyers that I could have in a pool who would be waiting to buy these notes? 

3. It's my understanding that as the licensed broker, I have to be at arm's length from the financing portion of the transaction, so I'm not clear as to how to go about this part of the transaction. Any suggestions? Could the pool of note buyers look at the purchase as if they were a loan officer and design the note the way they would buy it?

Yes, I am an "Out of the Box thinker"!  I suppose answers to these questions will get me to square 2 of 50. Thanks, folks! I appreciate any advice you might be able to provide! 

Quote from @Ken Stoll:
Quote from @David Walley:

I'm looking at them right now and trying to determine if they're real or a scam. They have a main email address: info@ but the originator that I am in contact with has only a gmail with his first name and company name. Their website doesn't show their Lenders license number and I thought that that was supposed to appear on all advertising which includes a website. I emailed the main address and asked about a license number and they responded this, "Unlike other individual HML we're not limited to an NMLS because we offer a nationwide lending option." Is this true?!!!!

The originator emailed me an app that looks put together very well. They also have an online application that is very poorly put together. You're supposed to provide 2 months bank statements but it will only allow you to upload one! Not a good sign! I also find it weird that when I Google for reviews and I can't find any! I'm going to get their license number and do a lot of research before I submit my info. Honestly, their loan programs are too good to be true! If they are real, jump onboard!! They also have a Personal loan, $40k to $900k at 5%!! That rate, TODAY is WAY low!!

After I do research on their license number etc. I'll pop back in and post what I find. In the meantime, if anyone has additional information, PLEASE post it!

Any update?

I was unable to find even ONE review on them. After contacting them at their info email address I was told the reason they didn't have a mortgage lender's license was because they're a national lender! Another person there further stated that they're not a mortgage company their private investors who loan money to businesses who are in the real estate rehab. 

I have not moved forward. If I can't find reviews, and a lot of them that are in favor of a company, I'm not a player.

I'm looking at them right now and trying to determine if they're real or a scam. They have a main email address: info@ but the originator that I am in contact with has only a gmail with his first name and company name. Their website doesn't show their Lenders license number and I thought that that was supposed to appear on all advertising which includes a website. I emailed the main address and asked about a license number and they responded this, "Unlike other individual HML we're not limited to an NMLS because we offer a nationwide lending option." Is this true?!!!!

The originator emailed me an app that looks put together very well. They also have an online application that is very poorly put together. You're supposed to provide 2 months bank statements but it will only allow you to upload one! Not a good sign! I also find it weird that when I Google for reviews and I can't find any! I'm going to get their license number and do a lot of research before I submit my info. Honestly, their loan programs are too good to be true! If they are real, jump onboard!! They also have a Personal loan, $40k to $900k at 5%!! That rate, TODAY is WAY low!!

After I do research on their license number etc. I'll pop back in and post what I find. In the meantime, if anyone has additional information, PLEASE post it!