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All Forum Posts by: David Taylor

David Taylor has started 6 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Fears & Your Predictions?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9

So my wife and I are reaching our saving's goal for our first STR investment property. We have around $25k saved up for initial money, and will soon have over $12k for emergency funds.

How are you dealing with fears (if you have them) of how the housing market is behaving? Obviously, inflation is at an all time high, inventory is low, prices continue to increase, and interest rates are rising. As a first time investor, I'm having difficulty trusting the market to correct itself through increased rate hikes by the Fed. If inflation continues to outpace wages, and housing prices continue to rise (and everyone ALWAYS wants more for their house, especially seeing how sellers made out over the past couple years) along with high interest rates - how will anyone be able to afford to buy a home or invest in the real estate market? 

The difference in monthly mortgage payments is significant when moving from 3% to 5.25%, and it looks like interest rates will continue to rise. 

This doesn't seem like it will end well. I don't know how we can avoid another recession, or perhaps more likely, a depression. And if that does happen, who will be able to afford to travel and book all these AirBnB?

Someone, tell me I'm crazy - and that my concerns are unfounded. My wife and I are in our mid-40's and desperately want to leave our regular W2's. But we certainly don't want to be forced to return to them with our tails tucked between our legs because the market fell out from beneath us.

Post: How do you choose your lender's location?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Jon Kelly:

@David Taylor I would suggest having one lender as a backup in your home town (proximity to you) that can lend to all markets you're looking into just IN CASE you cannot find a local (proximity to the property) lender. This will avoid any last minute scrambling. 

It's usually best to use local (proximity to the property) lenders until you get to a breaking point on the number of lenders you use. 

For example, if you begin investing in multiple cities and states you will end up with several lenders. It will be easy to manage in the beginning but will become time consuming as the number grows. I don't know what the breaking point is, it's different for everybody. Maybe after using 3-5 lenders you begin to consolidate. 

That’s a really great idea - since we hope to have a diverse range of properties through various markets, having a core lender we can continue to return to seems like it would be less complicated logistically. 

Post: How do you choose your lender's location?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Marcus Auerbach:

@David Taylor, as long as they are in Wisconsin; same State is local enough. 

Most people think local lender is important on how the lender can serve THEM better as a buyer, understands the local comunity and their motivation to invest - the latter is only an issue when you use a portfolio loan, no issue with a conventionl, that's all gov underwriting guidelines.

Thinak about thr seller's perspective. The case for a local lender is that they have a reputation (hopefully) to close deals on time. As a listing agent that is a top concern when we pick one of muntiple offers. Who brings the money is one of the biggest decision makers when it comes to selecting an offer. Online lendersn and national bank go to the bottom of the pile for me. Some mortgage brokers as well.

If the seller does not pay attention, the listing agent will - nothing is worse than a deal falling through or getting delayed because of the lender. It's the #2 issue after inspections.

@David Taylorundefined

Excellent insight, thanks! 

Post: How do you choose your lender's location?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Avery Carl:

Use a lender who does a lot of business in the asset class as well as market that you intend to buy. Appraisals are taking weeks right now and the lenders whose names they recognize get picked up faster because they have a longstanding relationship. In addition, when making an offer, if the listing agent is familiar with the lender that can make a difference in multiple offer situations. Lastly, a lender who is not as familiar with the market you are buying in may not be as nimble with overcoming some of the more nuanced obstacles of that particular market.

Case in point: I took my own medicine on this recently. I bought a place in a new market. It's just a state or two over from the market where a lender who I have done tons of local commercial deals with is (but they had never done a deal in this market or asset class). I wanted to use them to continue to move the relationship forward (even though I caution clients against it all the time)...ended up with an appraiser from 3 counties over and a 17k under appraisal...using comps from 2018.

Very interesting! Thanks for the great information.  

Post: How do you choose your lender's location?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @David Taylor:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:

A local lender that you already know is actually best.

Thanks for getting back to me. Just to clarify, a local lender in our home area, or a local lender in the rental property market? Or, are you saying any local lender versus a nation-wide lender? 
Thanks:)

The key isn’t where the lender resides, but rather the relationship with the banker. Use the bank where you have an established relationship. 

Ah! Thanks! Much appreciated.  

Post: How do you choose your lender's location?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:

A local lender that you already know is actually best.

Thanks for getting back to me. Just to clarify, a local lender in our home area, or a local lender in the rental property market? Or, are you saying any local lender versus a nation-wide lender? 
Thanks:)

Post: How do you choose your lender's location?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9

Because the real estate market is so hot right now, we are looking in multiple markets for our first STR purchase - all of which are outside of our immediate area.

Do you see any issues with us using a local (to us) lender, someone in our home town, to work with for this purchase? I frequently hear the importance of using a local lender (local to the market you are buying in), but because we are looking in several areas, I'm thinking it may be easier logistically to interview several lenders nearer to us, rather than the actual property markets. We live in central Wisconsin, and there are several good banks/CUs in this area - but many of the vacation towns we are researching have fewer options.

Thoughts?

Post: Where to begin for our first STVR purchase?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Jefferson Brown:

Hey @David Taylor its hard to add much to anything that's been said here but I had a few thoughts for you considering your budget and dreams:

1.) Have you considered tiny homes? Most offer financing of 80% LTV which could potentially put you at $10K for a %50K tiny house. Obviously there are more logistics to consider with this but the beauty of a tiny home is that its portable. If you mess up on your first location you can just move it and learn the ropes of STRs on something small. Get it styled woodsy to fit your cabin resort dream and make this the first step to making your dream a reality.

2.) If you don't own your first home yet I would consider house hacking.  Go get a 3.5% down loan on a home with a basement that you can rent.  My wife and I have been doing this for 8 years and have never paid more than $800/month for our mortgage as a result.  This could put more money in your pocket and help you save faster for something bigger.

Hope that helps, best of luck!

Thanks for the input! While I personally like the novelty of the tiny home STR option, I'm not sure I'm ready to go that route, yet. I don't really have a good reason behind it other than not being comfortable with it at this point.

We have considered (and will definitely keep the option open for) house hacking. But in order to really make the cash flow work, I think we'd need to have something like a quad-plex. This is simply because we don't currently pay rent or have a mortgage, so any money we'd be putting into a mortgage that isn't at least breaking even (with help from our renters) wouldn't help us move forward. At least how I understand the process.

Post: Where to begin for our first STVR purchase?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Jabbar Adesada:

Hey David, Respectfully I think you should Google your question, I find you learn more when you research it, two I don’t want your source to be me on the topic, and 3 I googled it myself and you will find your answer there quite easily!

Valid points, and I appreciate the honest feedback. I looked it up - it wouldn't affect my DTI, but there are several considerations I'd need to be sure that I'm comfortable with. The more I learn about real estate investing, it seems like it is a "better" investment than the stock market as far as retirement goes. So the money pulled from there to aid in our real estate investment may pay higher dividends than if left to Wall Street. That being said, and despite it not counting against my DTI, an additional payment each month (to repay the 401k loan) pulls more available money from our regular income. I need to determine whether or not moving faster (by pulling from the 401k) offers greater benefits than patience and continuing to simply save the money needed for the initial investment. Just typing out loud here - helps me think:D

Thanks again!

Post: Where to begin for our first STVR purchase?

David TaylorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Wisconsin
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Jabbar Adesada:

Definitely need to save more, but do you own a primary residence that you have equity in you can use that (HELOC)(LOC)(Cash out Refi) or a loan from your 401k as a 10% down payment on a beach condo. I have heard of people getting 1 bedroom condos for $150k in Myrtle Beach recently and have seen similar prices in other beach markets. Obviously with a partnership or OPM it is possible; but I'd get some experience risking your own money first.

Good points. We do not currently own a home. In fact, this will be our first home purchase - so the HELOC isn't an option for us at this time. I do have an established 401k, and had not thought about the option of taking a loan out from that. Interesting idea. I've heard of that being done, but I don't know what it entails.
Wouldn't a loan from a retirement fund count against your credit score/DTI, when you went to get a mortgage?