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Post: How Do You Evaluate a Foreclosure Auction Property Before Bidding?

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Quote from @Anwar Akobir:
For investors who focus on distressed or foreclosure properties, how do you evaluate whether an auction property is worth bidding on? I’m interested in hearing what steps or criteria you prioritize before taking action.
Many times the bank just puts it up at the amount of the loan value plus arrearages and fees. So there is no point in showing up if those numbers are greater than the AS IS value.
Post: How Do You Evaluate a Foreclosure Auction Property Before Bidding?

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Quote from @Fernando Alonso:
Actually, Anwar, it really depends on where the auction is taking place, what kind of auction it is, and what type of property you are looking at. Each state has its own rules, different lien hierarchies, and its own way of treating debts, and even counties within the same state can have very different procedures. That's why the first step is always to understand exactly which auction you are dealing with. A mortgage foreclosure, for example, requires you to check every possible lien because many of them can survive the sale. With a tax deed, on the other hand, the main concern is municipal liens since mortgages are usually wiped out. HOA foreclosures are another situation altogether because mortgage liens typically remain. In contrast, private auctions can sometimes lead to a clean title transaction, though that still depends on the terms.
The type of property also plays a big role. In the case of condos, you need to be alert to HOA debts, upcoming special assessments, possible building violations, and any restrictions on ownership or rentals. With single-family homes, the issues are different, you carry the full burden of maintenance, so the physical condition of the house, along with any municipal violations, becomes a much bigger factor.
In the end, for me it always comes down to three essential considerations before bidding: understanding the market conditions surrounding the property, knowing which liens or debts you would inherit, and being clear about the physical condition of the property and the repair costs you might be facing. When you weigh all three together, you can decide whether the property is truly worth bidding on.
Fernando, another one investors tend to miss is looking at Federal tax liens on a property. Many LLC businesses get into an issue where they can't pay taxes and it goes back to the members personally.
Now interestingly those Federal tax liens can be removed almost with a snap of your fingers.
Post: Would you do the deal? Foreclosure Rescue 🧐

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Quote from @Jennifer Andrews:
Foreclosure Rescue
- Mortgage: $385,000 [valued at 475-520]
- Seller walk-away: $10,000
- Wholesaler/Chris: $5,000 at close + $3,000 upfront consulting
- Rehab: $8,500 total ($3k upfront, $5.5k at close)
- Realtor commission: 6%
- Closing/title: 2%
- Monthly carrying costs: $3,000
🔑 Takeaways
- With 2 months hold, you’re fine at $475k+ (profit $13.5k–$55k).
- With 4 months hold, $475k is basically a wash; you need $485k+ to net five figures.
- With 6 months hold, you’re losing money below ~$490k. Only a $520k sale keeps it comfortably profitable.
- So your break-even zone is around $480k–$485k if it drags out.
✅ Bottom line: This deal works if:
- You can keep days-on-market short (≤60 days), or
- You can confidently list/sell at the high end ($495k–$510k+).
If it sits too long and sells toward the low end ($470s), you risk burning cash or barely breaking even.
Jennifer, where do you get the monthly carrying costs of $3000? it looks like you're borrowing over $400,000 and at 10% interest and that's over $3400 a month alone and just interest charges and then on top of it you've got utilities, you got prorated real estate taxes and what about fire insurance, etc ?
Post: Can successor of interest force a short sale without borrowers permission?

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Quote from @Joe Henry:
I'm sitting on a house that I made the classic rookie blunder on - the first mortgage lien was NOT cleared when I bid the house at the HOA foreclosure auction. How fun. It's been 2 years and I got a place to live out of it.
However, the bank is now trying to foreclose again (was on hold due to original borrower's (previous owner's) military protections).
The borrowers are unresponsive.
I'd like to arrange a short sale but the bank/servicer (Rushmore) is telling me I'm not a successor of interest and that they need the borrowers signature for any short sale. However, online I'm seeing that this is legally possible without it, as I am in fact a successor of interest legally as I understand it.
1. Aside from getting a lawyer does anyone have experience with organizing a short sale without the borrowers siganture, using successor of interest alone?
2. I keep getting off handed suggestions to "work with the underwriter, they can do anything". So far the servicer acts like they've never heard the word "underwriter" in their life and have no idea who or what it is. Is this whole underwriter approach old info from a bygone time? I know things have changed a lot over the years.
many reasons.
Post: Why So Many Homeowners Wait Too Long to Ask for Help

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Quote from @David Litt:
One thing I’ve noticed when talking to homeowners in pre-foreclosure: many wait until it’s almost too late before exploring their options. By the time they reach out, the auction date is often just weeks away.
Some reasons I’ve seen:
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Shame or embarrassment about falling behind
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Fear of scams or distrust of anyone offering help
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Confusion about the process and deadlines
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Hope that something will magically work itself out
For those who’ve worked with distressed homeowners:
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How do you approach these conversations in a way that builds trust?
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Have you found strategies that help owners take action sooner?
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Do you think there’s enough education out there about foreclosure timelines and options?
1. to build trust tell them exactly who you are but also tell them “Although I can buy your house for cash if you want , I can also HELP you keep your if that is what YOU want to do”
2. To reach out with Direct mail, it allows you to tell them what you can do while they are in a protected non threatening environment.
3. No absolutely not. there is it enough education out their for investors to understand all the options the borrower has.
Post: how much is the VA discounting short sales?

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Quote from @Minna Reid:
They're going to want to NET 84.05% of appraisal value. NET as in after all costs of sale. The lender will order an appraisal as part of the short sale approval process, which will likely come in at market value.
Post: Foreclosure Rescue vs. Investing: Why They’re Not the Same

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Quote from @David Litt:
I’ve noticed a lot of discussions here about buying foreclosure properties, and I think it’s worth clarifying something I’ve learned through experience: foreclosure rescue is not the same as investing in foreclosures.
When most people think “foreclosure,” they picture buying a distressed property at a discount — and that’s definitely one strategy. But foreclosure rescue often has a completely different goal: helping homeowners avoid losing their home whenever possible.
Sometimes that means buying the property, but not always. In many cases, it involves:
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Helping owners explore options like loan modifications, forbearance, or refinancing.
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Working with lenders to negotiate timelines or repayment structures.
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Educating homeowners on alternatives they might not even know exist.
From what I’ve seen, a lot of homeowners assume that talking to someone about foreclosure automatically means they’ll be forced to sell. But in reality, there are situations where they can stay in their home and get back on track financially.
I’m curious how others in the community view this.
A lot good points but I wish more Investors on the “investing” side were aware of more options to help the homeowner when the foreclosure is happening because the seller cannot sell the house for an amount that pays off All the liens on the property (ie Short Sale). Nothing good happens for the Bank or the seller when a foreclosure happens in this situation when instead the seller could get
more time in the house , not have a foreclosure on the Credit, and get some money from the bank, etc and Investors can make HUGE profits being the buyer.
Post: Flip Deal Flow

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Quote from @Sultan Ali:
Got it David, thanks for clarifying. Short sales sound like a smart way to cut down on competition, do you usually work them through agents or banks directly?
Post: Flip Deal Flow

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Quote from @Sultan Ali:
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Quote from @Sultan Ali:
Ryan, I’m also working in the wholesaling space here in NJ and I’ve found that local REIA meetups and township foreclosure auctions are the best places to connect with active investors and flippers. Title companies and hard money lenders can also be a great resource since they see who’s consistently closing deals.
Networking has been key for me, many wholesalers don’t advertise much but show up at those events regularly. Staying active here on BP has also helped me build relationships with other local investors.
Would love to hear from other NJ investors too, what’s worked best for you in finding reliable deal flow?
I think in certain counties in NJ there is very reliable deal flow in foreclosure auctions.
auctions can definitely bring some opportunities but they’re not always easy to secure. In my area (Essex and Union counties), direct-to-seller still seems to be more consistent, though it requires more legwork. Curious if you’ve found any particular strategies that help stand out at auctions when there’s a lot of investor competition?
Sultan, What I meant by "constant deal flow with foreclosures" is doing short sales, NOT going to the auctions themselves. With Short sales there is NO competition with other investors. or alteast not that many people I know doing what I do. So yes that becomes direct to Seller, preempting the foreclosure.
Post: Is Helping Homeowners in Foreclosure “Ethical” Investing… or Taking Advantage?

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @David Randolph:
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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
In many states now you MUST be a licensed foreclosure consultant. But Chris I could not agree more.. this is just another wholesaling method. I am not being a hypocrite as I had a business prior to the laws changing in OR CA WA with pre foreclosure rescue and I did hundreds of them.. But lets not confuse those that do this with some do gooder agenda this is all about making money full stop. It takes a lot of work and money to track these down and get a chance to sit down and talk to someone in foreclosure.. Who does all that work and expense just for social good. Maybe some non profits but certainly NO ONE on BP does it for those reasons its all about getting a good deal.. Lets be honest here.
Now since I have personally sat with well over 100 homeowners that were in foreclosure to discuss their situations and to acquire their property ( that was the mission after all) Folks get into this jam for all sorts of reasons its just the human condition and a basic issue of many Americans cant control their spending or budget their money. Their are health issues of course and lost jobs.. but there is also the KIDS STOLE the money. 200k forth of cars boats RVs in the driveway with massive payments etc etc. Gambling addictions drugs ..
What I did run into though was some foreclosure rescue person gets there ahead of me and just lies through their teeth to try to get a deal.. I have seen folks deed over a house and not understand what that meant. ( I helped them unwind that one ) Also as noted bad lenders who promise the moon and cant come through and leave the folks NO choice but to file BK to save their equity.. But many times letting it go to sale and collecting the overage is the smart move for them NOT selling to a pre foreclosure buyer. Although that route does have risk as there could be collusion at the court house steps and the property does not get bid up like it would have if the local good ole boys and girls were not colluding to keep the bid very low.. ( ie paying walk off money)..
Yup no offense to anyone but post like this are totally self serving and most folks just dont know the realities of this side of the business I know Chris lives it everyday.. I have decades of experience real world with it with 100s of pre foreclosure transactions done and in the books.
As another stated the financial and credit damage is done going to sale barely moves the needle in that regard so its just BS that there is some credit help happening.. One of the main motivators for folks to stay in their home IE foreclosure rescue lease back is to keep kiddos in their school. Foreclosure rescue lease back is ILLEGAL in many states but of course no one ever mentions that part :)
short sales are very different from what foreclosure rescue folks do or are attempting to do which is to say most if not all are looking to close and capture the owner whose losing the properties equity.
Short sale takes a lot of effort from the person losing the home to get the bank to allow one.. so when you do a short sale you earn it. And the lender generally does not want to see any money at all going to the owner and in fact many times is trying to get the owner to sign a note for the short fall.. apples and oranges in my mind when it comes to what the thread is talking about
This thread is about buying houses from distressed homeowners in foreclosure and particularly your comment was about the foreclosure rescue laws and I bet most the investors on here have no idea what they are.
I don’t want those investors thinking that because of foreclosure rescue laws that they cannot help homeowners who are underwater (owe more than the house is worth) and make money. Yes apples and oranges but short sales are an integral and important process the banks follow.
and in over 100 short sales over the past 15 years that I have processed/negotiated, ZERO have had the owner sign a note for the shortfall. Also, 90% have been paid $1500-$3000 at closing by the bank.