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All Forum Posts by: David Li

David Li has started 2 posts and replied 11 times.

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

To quote the late Bishop Bullwinkle, "Hell to da naw, naw, naw!"

If you haven't seen the video, give it a look.

My employees are regularly asking this question even though the office policy says we do not allow payments. So I let them accept three renters with 50% of the deposit at move-in and payments for the rest. It's been two months and none of the tenants have made their payments. One has only lived there 45 days and he's failed to make a payment, his fiance moved out yesterday, and he's talking about moving to Florida to "clear his mind" after being dumped.

So, you can be like my employees that feel the need to learn from experience or you can learn from those that have been there before you. Do not accept payment plans because they almost never pay and it will dramatically increase your workload and stress.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Nathan. In my case, the full deposit will be paid about 1 month before move-in. I don't think I will ever let anyone move in without paying all the deposit. If they do not pay the full deposit by the promised date, I will still have 3 weeks to find another tenant before the current lease is up. The prospect seems like a stable family - they have a child and one more on the way.  Clean record other than less than desirable credit. 

Originally posted by @Bruce Lynn:

What happens if they don't pay the rest of the deposit?....now that they are moved in?

I won't give them the keys until the deposit is paid in full. There's still over a month before the lease starts and the prospect can pay half within 24 hours of signing the lease, and the other half 10 days later.  

Originally posted by @Julie Hartman:

@David Li We've actually allowed applicants/tenants to pay between 2-4 installments for an extra large deposit. We don't make a habit out of it but many folks don't have large amounts of cash sitting around. And if we felt comfortable with their background check, we trusted them to pay it. To date, all of them have honored the deal and it worked out. 

Thank you Julie, that is very reassuring. We have added an addendum for the security deposit since it is a rare occurrence and the standard Texas leasing forms don't mention this. The applicant and her family actually works in the same company as I (though they do not know), so I do want to help them out as much as I can while protecting my assets - hence the double security deposit. 

Originally posted by @Alex Goncharov:
Originally posted by @David Li:

I'm in Houston. Listed a single family yesterday since my current tenant will not renew their lease (end of June) and already received multiple applications. Many are also offering above my asking rent, paying up to 6 months rent in advance, or even submitting applications without viewing the property. 

submitting applications without viewing the property - it is risky from their side to do this. Do you have a hot market now after the pandemic? Or it happens because you have a very good single family? 

Yes, it's very risky indeed and we didn't really want to entertain those whom does not even request a showing. Houston has definitely been a very hot market, at least from the buy/sell side since the beginning of COVID. I didn't expect this to translate into the rental side. My single family is slightly newer than others in the neighborhood (2017 build) but I have seen other rental listings go within a few days. I have already priced it slightly above comps, and yet people are willing to pay more, have a longer lease and/or pay from 6 months to a full year in advance to secure the property. The interest was so great I had to turn down at least half of the requested showings. 

Originally posted by @Greg M.:

First off, never trust the current landlord. Any landlord that wants the tenant gone will give a glowing recommendation.

I'm going to assume that their move-in date is somewhere in between their first payment and the two weeks from now... I'd be a little worried that even with 6X income that they don't have enough money saved for even a slight bump in the road. If this is a C/D class area, OK, but if A/B that would very much worry me.

That's a good point. Thanks Greg! My home is in an A/B class area. They haven't always made this much money before, especially during COVID. 

Originally posted by @Kim Meredith Hampton:

@David Li I never, ever let people move in until all monies are paid. You will learn that the hard way if you go down that road. They will need to wait two weeks to move in. 

Did you check and make sure that the person verifying the rental, was in fact the owner of where they live? or making sure they are not currently under eviction and they will do anything to get rid of them. Check and verify everything 

Thanks Kim! The move-in date is actually the beginning of July, so there's still over a month in-between. The current owner is actually a realtor in the area and her comments about the prospect appear to be genuine. The owner mentioned that if they still haven't found a place to live yet, she will do a month-to-month until they do so. They simply need a larger space to accommodate a growing family. No eviction and other than bad credit score, everything checks out fine. 

Hello, 

I have a prospect (family) whom I have already approved, but I am requesting 2 months deposit instead of the standard 1 month due to their less than ideal credit. They initially agreed verbally, but now they are asking if they can pay half of it now, and the other half in 2 weeks when she gets her paycheck. I've spoken to their current landlord and they have always paid on time for the past 2 years and the recommendation was glowing. Their income is 6x my rent but have a large debt. Given the pros and cons, how would you handle this situation?

Thanks in advance, 

David

Thank you everyone for your comments. I have decided to proceed with accepting this applicant and am not revealing that I also work in the same company. 

Jim, 

Thank you for your insights. You made very good points which I had not even thought of. At this time, the applicant does not know I work in the same company and I will definitely take yours words under advisement. Thank you and much appreciated!

I'm in Houston. Listed a single family yesterday since my current tenant will not renew their lease (end of June) and already received multiple applications. Many are also offering above my asking rent, paying up to 6 months rent in advance, or even submitting applications without viewing the property. I would think listings are gone within a couple days on average. A few days if you're a picky landlord.