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All Forum Posts by: David Hare

David Hare has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Quote from @Evan Polaski:

@David Hare, as noted your best bet would be to talk to a manager in those areas.  They will charge their fee, plus actual expenses incurred.  I would try to talk to several, as different managers will handle properties differently.

While I don't own an Airbnb currently, I have several close friends that do/used to, one that is a manager of her own and for others, and used to own one. Additionally, I am in a somewhat similar position to you: looking for a place for my family to use, and STR in between.

Regarding expenses:
- Electric
- Gas
- Water
- Internet
- Netflix/Cable/etc
- Paper product
- Cleaning supplies
- Coffee for guest
- Fairly regular replacement of linens (sheets/towels/wash clothes)
- Insurance
- Taxes
- Airbnb Fees
- Local fees/taxes
- Cleaning costs (yes reimbursable, but there is a fine balance between covering costs and not pissing off potential guests)
- Mortgage costs
- Maintenance costs
- Landscaping

There are lots of nuances to running an airbnb.  If you cram a bunch of beds and heads into a Norris lake house, you are more likely to get guests that are just there to party.  Personally, when I consider a property for myself, I want others like me: they will pay a premium for creature comforts and good design.  Don't be pennywise, dollar dumb.  Provide enough toilet paper and then some, buy nice linens, ideally have a full bath for every bedroom, etc.

Hey Evan, great info. Thanks for detailed checklist. Just looking at all things to consider. I want to make sure the highest expenses and lowest income that numbers still work. Thanks for taking the time. 
Quote from @Jeremy H.:

I'm going to be honest here - if you're looking for a calculator to tell you what your expenses are then you likely don't know enough about what you're doing...

You need to come up with a list of all your STR expenses (this includes the cleaning fee since you are the one paying the cleaners!)

Then use pricelabs, airDNA, realtors/owners in the area (look up short term shop - they are experts in that field) to estimate your revenue

Now you can calc your profit since you have your revenue & expenses 

There's tons of different calculators out there...please don't be one of the ones that depends on a random calculator that can be put together in 10 mins to tell you whether or not to make YOUR investment (relying on someone else's calculator would be a BAD idea!). Make a spreadsheet and do your own due diligence based on YOUR SPECIFIC property

Thanks Jeremy. Yes I am new. I am trying to learn what things to look for as far as expenses and revenue and just gathering the info to make an informed decision on direction we’re considering.

I heard an episode a while back on BP, may have been a recorded webinar, and had a spreadsheet to help figure out the expenses. Plug in the numbers, yes, but guided and detailed expenses to consider before pursuing. 

At this point, flying blind, but guidance here has been helpful. I’ve run some numbers that I understand and believe to be close. Excited about the possibilities. But want to be real. So to analyze a deal, looking forward to learning from those who are actually doing it. 

My wife and I are close to retirement. We have some money that we're looking to put into RE (about $450-500k) that we can use and rent out the rest of the time. One to be near one of our kids (in Acworth) in the Red Top mountain area, and second one in Norris Lake area for like an annual gathering with the whole family. I've found some possible places and like the numbers I'm seeing but not sure of breakdown. I used the airdna calculator but don't see a detailed number breakdown. I assume that would be in pro membership. I have listened to a variety of BP podcasts and watch the youtube channel with relevant info and that has been great. I believe a while back I heard that there was a calculator or estimator for all the numbers to consider. Where could I find that?