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All Forum Posts by: David Atwood

David Atwood has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

I'll admit I haven't seen the law itself, only the ERAP website, but my interpretation is that as long as the application is pending, then the tenant can't be evicted.  As far as I know, the application's "pending" status doesn't just expire.  It can only proceed to the next stage (getting reviewed), which requires ERAP to be funded.  Are there any details on ERAP you can share that would say that I have this wrong?

I understand your advice about getting more hands off.  I was hoping that my second year of owning this property, I would be able to exactly that.  I just need to get over this hump.  If I were to go the route of hiring an attorney, it almost sounds like I would be better off waiting for a few months, eating the loss.  That is, if I'm interpreting your post to mean that the ERAP application eventually expires.

Kevin, I had this idea in mind when I was about to give in and accept ERAP.  With the tenant only allowed to use ERAP once and only get 3 months of future rent, I expected I would get a chance to evict before my operating losses extend beyond the term of the lease.  However, I cannot use this strategy as I explained.  I know I went on a long ramble a bit, so it's expected that some details would get missed.  The thing to keep in mind is that I cannot get ERAP payments.  Due to bad timing and incompetent politicians, my tenant's application will remain in a "pending" status for the foreseeable future due to lack of program funding, which makes him immune to eviction, but also means I won't get paid.  The only reason I went to court the first time to try was because I have some dirt on the tenant that suggests he brought his financial troubles on himself.

I went to court with my property manager by my side because I thought his experience would be an okay substitute for an attorney.  After that day, I have since had a consult with an attorney who wasn't much help.  I can explain that more if needed, but I think I already established why the simple reason of being owed rent isn't going to get me a win in court.  His fee would have been $2500, which I think would be better spent adding to my offer to the tenant.

My initial offer to the tenant was $2k.  He is unemployed and can''t use his car.  His stories for those make him out to be a victim of course.  I can't say for sure if he's telling the truth.  What I do know is that he is putting forth almost no effort to fix his situation.  Ultimately, it doesn't matter.  Without a job and car, I can see why even $2k isn't enough to start over somewhere else.  I'm also worried that his shelter contact is advising him that staying put is in his best interest.

The reason I'm here as a new member was for reaching out to more experienced landlords who have been stuck between a rock and a hard place and have had to use unconventional strategies.  I already know about the carrot approach and might just need to offer a bigger carrot, but the stick approach is where I think I might make some mistakes as a new landlord.

I'm very new at property ownership in all forms, having bought my first house, a duplex, in November 2021.  I took an out-of-state job shortly after, which had me move last May.  I converted the property from the primary residence it was (with the other side as a rental) to a full rental.  Due to how far away I was, I also hired a property manager.   At the same time, I had the tenant that had been there since before I bought the property sign a new one-year lease.  I don't know how related it all is or if it was just a coincidence, but as soon as all of this happened, collecting rent became a problem.  The entire summer had a constant theme of getting a few partial payments every month.  At some point, the tenant was served a 14-day pay or vacate notice, but did catch up on his balance owed.  It finally came to a head in September, which had no payments and no payments have come in since.  He was served another 14-day notice, only this time there was no payment.

Instead, he went to a local shelter for aid, who enlightened him about NY's ERAP and got him to apply.  The property manager suggested we attempt eviction anyway because the judge has the power to make whatever decision he wants and I had a long history on this tenant that would probably prove that he doesn't qualify for ERAP based on my interpretation of the "hardship" requirement.  Well, we get into court and are dismissed immediately because of a new requirement that not even my property manager knew about, which was there can't be too much time (I forgot the exact days) between serving an eviction notice and the court appearance.  So I never even get a chance to get a read on the judge to see if he would be willing to consider overriding the ERAP eviction-immunity.  The financial sacrifice I endured to be able to attend this eviction attempt was great enough for me to decide to give in and accept ERAP.  My reluctance to do so was because the property has been operating at a slight loss for reasons I won't get into.  I planned for this loss to last only until this tenant's lease comes to an end.  ERAP's protection extends well beyond this date.

However, recent revelations have made me go back to my original position and not fill in my end of the application.  The ERAP website says that no applications after August 31 will be processed due to lack of funding, confirmed by talking with a representative for the program.  This tenant's ERAP application was submitted in September.  This means that I am guaranteed not to get paid, but also can't evict the tenant.  It's just another eviction moratorium that could theoretically last forever if the politicians don't fund the program or dismantle the program entirely.  Meanwhile, my property operating under a slight loss in the best of times is now a much larger loss due to the rent payments no longer coming in.  The tenant's one-year protection from eviction won't even start counting down until I receive my first ERAP payment.  So screw it, I'm not going to fill in my side of the application until I see an update about additional funding.

What I want to try next is trying to persuade the tenant to leave, either through bribery or some other means.  I have actually already tried to offer him money and debt forgiveness, which he has declined, claiming it won't help because he has no where to go.  I am capable of offering even more money, but I also want to make it known that I will try to make continued habitation of my property as unappealing as possible.  I have already removed the washer and dryer and the property is in a semi-rural area.  I am very close to removing the kitchen appliances.  The lease doesn't require that I supply any of these.

If there's anyone here who has dealt with a similar situation, I would appreciate any and all ideas.  I'm even willing to enter the realm of illegal actions as long as it is still likely to have an outcome more favorable than just letting the tenant live there rent-free.  My personal finances are close enough to the brink for me to consider ANYTHING.