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All Forum Posts by: NA N.

NA N. has started 7 posts and replied 40 times.

Originally posted by @Bobby Beard:
I don't think Joe Gore is in the wrong by saying what he did. He represents a dying breed of honest people who step up and pay their debt. However you may not a agree with his views and by reading the post your looking for ways for your friend to get out of this situation with out having to pay.. Am I right or wrong? That's your question right? Can they come after her? Will she have to pay if it's caught? That's exactly what your asking and joe is giving his view. And his view is a honest correct view. Now, my view is the company shares some of the blame for not billing. They should be willing to make an agreement based on both parties failure to notify. Your friend could cancel the site save proof of closure just in case they come after her later. But either way she owes for the service and knew she owed for it all along. She chose to be less than ethical and chose to let it go 4 years and build up. Both of you may learn some ethics by talking with joe.
Good luck!

Of course you don't think he is in the wrong. You are just like him. Can't read through the post to comprehend what is being asked, think you "know" what you obviously don't, think you are "morally correct" and need to chime in when you have nothing of substance to add to the main question asked, are cynical and quick to pass judgement on someone you don't know and have no clue of their situation and on top of that you show that your intention on chiming in was purely to be an instigator and keep ganging and passing judgement. It's funny, because you guys look like children in high school trying to make a point out of what? ethics of someone you don't know and for what purpose? to pretend that you are the ethically perfect guy on a forum? I mean, really this is borderline hilarious now. You sound like a bunch of hypocrites and maybe you need to get together to release and vent on how bad everyone who has been late on their credit cards is or has filed bankruptcy is, etc... get the point? Sure your mother or brother doesn't need to talk to Joe and learn some ethics as well? Good luck!

Originally posted by @Jerry W.:
@NA N. shake it off if you can. The purpose of posting is to help others. Sometimes folks do not understand what it is like to be broke and scared. I deal with folks who have done wrong on a regular basis, your friend did make a mistake, but hopefully she learned from it so she will not repeat it again. Everyone has made mistakes. The size of the mistake usually controls how bad the results are, but sometimes we just get lucky and get a free lesson.

I have looked at their posts and most are cynical in nature. If it bothers you a lot there is a report abuse button at the bottom of each person's picture. Try not to use it unless you feel it is truly justified.

Thank you Jerry, you are spot on. It is just sad that some people can't keep it to themselves and feel the need to show they are somehow "morally correct" on a forum of all places. They are so perfect and so entitled to judge others even when they have no clue about any of the facts.

I have done the reporting you suggest, since now there is a little gang who can see through a forum post and want to make it right.

Hope they can be grown ups and call it a day!

Originally posted by @Donald Hendricks:
Originally posted by @NA N.:
Originally posted by @Donald Hendricks:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Carry on you are the real winner.
Joe Gore

I concur, the mysterious "partner" and Dash F are real winners. I really like it when people show me who they are for free.

Oh don't tell me that you are the guy that can see through and is always spot on and can read people?

@Jon Holdman I didn't know bigger pockets had these gems of personalities who ganged to attack a member who is asking for help. This is not what this website is about and certainly not what I have experienced in the past.

What can we do to have these nice gentlemen call it a day?

You got answers. You just didn't like them.

Of course I did get answers. From other knowledgeable members who have the decency to stay on target and not pass judgement on something they don't know the details about, because that is what decent people do. You wouldn't know anything about that though.

Originally posted by @Donald Hendricks:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Carry on you are the real winner.
Joe Gore

I concur, the mysterious "partner" and Dash F are real winners. I really like it when people show me who they are for free.

Oh don't tell me that you are the guy that can see through and is always spot on and can read people?

@Jon Holdman I didn't know bigger pockets had these gems of personalities who ganged to attack a member who is asking for help. This is not what this website is about and certainly not what I have experienced in the past.

What can we do to have these nice gentlemen call it a day?

Originally posted by @Jerry W.:
@NA N. there are several things to consider here. First she has a potential for a bill every month so she needs to close her website immediately. By doing that she will stop any ongoing liability.

As to her current liability for past use I cannot give you any help. Every state has statutes of limitations on how long a liability may be in effect before you lose the right to enforce it. Real estate contracts are usually the longest, in Wyoming it is 10 years from last payment. For written contracts it is 4 years here I think. You would need a local attorney to help. There is no negative to closing her site now. Do it and wait and see.

That's what she is doing, pulling the site and will just wait and see. I appreciate your comment.

Thanks a lot.

Originally posted by @Rob K.:
I had a similar thing happen years ago with my cable provider. I stopped getting bills. At first I didn't notice because when I receive a bill in the mail, I usually pay it online the next morning. In this case, I realized that I hadn't received a cable bill in a couple months. After a while, it became a big joke with friends asking if my cable bill had come yet. I figured that if they ever caught on, they would send me a huge bill and I would pay it. Finally after a whole year, I received a letter that there had been a "billing error". They said that I wouldn't have to pay any arrears, but would need to start paying again from that point forward. It was all fine with me.
Not sure what will happen in your case, but it sounds like you fell through the cracks like I did.

That is a cool story Rob! You are lucky, cable companies enjoy suing for a couple hundred even. Were you a long time client? Watch out though, Joe Gore will call you dishonest and accuse you of "pulling a fast one".

@Account Closed WOW! I think it is best if you find someone to talk to, you know, in person not on a forum so they can help you vent and let go of all that bitterness you have shown in just 3 posts. No one likes a grumpy man who passes judgement without having a clue and can't let go when told to stop being annoying. You are childish.

Originally posted by @Jon Holdman:

Sorry, but your take is wrong. Based on the statement: "after the year it goes month to month", she would have had to explicitly cancel to terminate the service. My rental property leases say exactly the same thing and I certainly expect tenants to keep paying if they don't give notice.

I think you're asking, though, if they can come after her for the unpaid charges. Yes, they can. I would expect they would send a bill before sending it to collections. If she doesn't pay it then they might send it to collections. That would hit her credit record. No court involved.

She should check her old credit card statements. She may have had a card that was getting charged. Or, for that matter, may still be getting charged.

Hi Jon, good points.

Here is new info from her.

She told me she found the invoice for the 1yr payment and that it is written there that they agreed to start counting her "paid year" when her website was all finished and she went live.

She never got around developing the site further and sort of left it half way through, so she never bothered and thought she wasted 1k on a plugin and a failed website.

Apparently they are still waiting for her to tell them that the website is officially live to start counting her 1st year. That is the only thing I can think of as the reason why they haven't billed her, but it seems that after 4 yrs they should have touched base with her, but she says they never even once asked her if the site was live or nothing.

They might bill her at some point, but I am wondering, what if another 5 yrs go by, under that logic you mention they would bill her for 9 yrs?

Originally posted by @Account Closed:
@Dash F.,

I will pass judgment again. If you really wanted to help you will tell her to pay her debt or let it go to collections. If she shut down the site she still owe the money.

Joe Gore

You feel better now Joe? Good, now let us move on, I'm sure there are other threads you can pass judgement on too. Hope your day gets better!

Originally posted by @Jon A.:
I'd just shut down the site and move on with life.

That's what I thought. Thanks

Originally posted by @Jon A.:
Are you sure that they're still in business? Maybe they gave up but the plug-in still works?

Hi Jon, yes they are still in business. It is very strange that they never billed her again. Not sure how that went on for almost 4 yrs. But now if you add it up it is like 4 grand.. so she is worried that she let it went by this long.