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All Forum Posts by: Darren Liedtke

Darren Liedtke has started 4 posts and replied 34 times.

Very cool @Shawn Ackerman. Being that I may very well be in the same boat as when you started out I completely understand. Thanks for sharing. 

Post: Aprecciacion and growth in specific Milwaukee, WI

Darren LiedtkePosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 5

I occasionally get free time at my current job @Shawn Ackerman. HAHA. Sorry for texting your ear off.

Very Interesting @Shawn Ackerman. I could see myself doing some "hood" investment on the south side myself. I think I'd want to be very specific though. So you then just rent these properties? What kind of appreciation do you see if any? 

I guess my main point was that at one point Bay View was pretty "hood", River West was the "hood", Walkers point was the "hood". Where if any is that opportunity now? 

Post: Aprecciacion and growth in specific Milwaukee, WI

Darren LiedtkePosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 5

Hey @Meghan McCallum

 Thanks for showing some love. I've heard about all the local groups. I'm sure eventually I'll show my face at some of those events. Right now I'm really only batting around the idea of investing in any way shape or form. Short of very small investments in the stock markets I have done nothing yet. Real estate just seems to make perfect sense for my family. As I sort of mentioned in my post, my wife has almost twenty years experience in real estate, and even more so in mortgage. She has done everything front to back, originator, closer, insurance, realtor for corporate relocations.. On the other hand I've worked in the building trades in varying forms for about the same amount of time. I am actually currently a maintenance technician/engineer. Why on earth would we use these talents for someone else? 

 Out side of that I would be interested what some one inside the industry thinks. Perhaps I should pick up @Dawn Anastasi book. Me personally, being born and raised here I've been pretty spot on with where I thought things were going looking back. It was all intuitive though. Not necessarily technical analysis. For instance I grew up in Bay View and after traveling a bit I remember telling people to buy there. I currently have a few friends that own some of the mixed properties there. store fronts and apartments above. They partially made their decision due to us showing them the neighborhood in our youth. I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the changes in that neighborhood compared to my youth. I can only Imagine things have flattened out there to some degree. As mentioned above I have a feeling if you hold on long enough you could see some real increased value in  Lincoln Village, or safer bets to be made in Cudahay/ St Francis. 

 Short of giving me the next edition of your book @Dawn Anastasi I'd be extremely interested to hear the condensed version here and now? whats the next "big" Milwaukee neighborhood? Is there one or does the ride end at Riverwest, Walkers Point, Bay View, Lower East side, etc... 

Another aspect that just struck me... Doesn't phase two of the street car involve a line through the north side? I remember hearing about it and figuring it was a bone throw too the Bob Donavan critique that Tommy Tomson only cares about Down Town and The eastern parts of the city. Is it that it just goes up MLK at some point? Hmmmm something I need to look into.

Interesting @Shawn Ackerman.  The north side you say? I'm curious which zips you focus on. When you say north side are we talking north Suburbs with a similar plan to what @Marcus Auerbach talked about in that other post? 

 @Marcus Auerbach I'd love to hear what you think on this topic as well. Whats the next "big" neighborhood in Milwaukee?

Post: Aprecciacion and growth in specific Milwaukee, WI

Darren LiedtkePosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 5

So, I'm currently browsing all the easy listing engines, zillow, realtor, the rest, trying to get a feel for what's available, what things are priced at etc... and simultaneously bouncing that off an interesting recent experience of my own.

I guess I can start by giving a quick blip of our experience over this summer. My wife owns our family home in the River West neighborhood here in Milwaukee. We are just behind Colectivo and one block from the river itself for those that know the area well enough. The home was purchased at the height of the bubble with all signs indicating River West and Brewers Hill were about to boom, or boom even more I guess.

Long story a bit shorter, here we are in the house all these years later thinking we can do a cash out refi as a move to use the cash, improve the property, and sell possibly moving up into the north shore area.

Being that my wife has done REO analysis for MGIC she has tons of experience valuing homes, looking at comparables, estimating value of repairs etc... She was convinced we would get an appraisal in a certain range. We did not. The appraiser used a comp on Buffum St. (again anyone that truly knows this niche market should understand that red flag. Yes, same zip, same signs on the street poles saying "River West", worlds apart. The difference five ten blocks can make.) We still refied for other reasons but weren't able to cash out. We literally had offers sitting for our needed price but just weren't ready to move making it impossible to accept them.

Here we are at the end of a summer that saw very little listings in the neighborhood and tons of buyers. We recently checked one of the comps used and saw it sold for almost 100,000 more than the original asking price after a bidding war!

Needless to say we are still a little upset the appraisal came without any understanding of the current market. $500 bucks and lessons learned.

Well if you've stuck it out through that boring story till now, I'll get to my point. It seems to me knowing the specific market, which way a neighborhood is going, etc... is all extremely important in this thing. That being said I'd like to strike up a conversation on speculation of specific Milwaukee neighborhoods. Brewers Hill and River West finally pulling themselves out of the crisis and seeing values on the rise again. How much does the new bucks arena effect Brewers Hill? How long before River Westers brave the Holton St. divide in a critical mass changing that neighborhood significantly? Every year one more house on Holton has a fresh coat of paint, a new porch, roof, landscaping etc... Harambe the next hipster haven? Bay view? How much growth is left specifically? Do people push into Lincoln Village eventually? I know a few artist types who are there now for its proximity to BV, cheap rents, and great tacos. That's how it always starts isn't it? The whole south side? Foxcon creates a similar situation to the mission district of San Francisco? Walkers Point is clearly really taking big steps towards that future. I'd go as far as to say so is Silver City with the changes we are seeing in the valley. Layton blvd/27th and it's beautiful big homes (Frank Loyd ring a bell?). Sherman park and it's big beautiful homes on Sherman/43rd. Back to Bay View, what about the rest of the south shore? St Francis, Cudahay, and the rest? There's only so much shore line. What's growth look like in those areas?

What's the scoop? Tell me what you think? Where's the next big neighborhood in Milwaukee. Where can you get in now, fight the storm, and come out in the next big neighborhood. Is it worth thinking about or do we all stick to nothing but Brady and Farwell /east side, renting around the college, River West, bay view, brewers Hill, Walkers point, and follow the herd? What does Milwaukees future look like? We can even go as far as the rest of the south eastern WI area. Do hipsters invade downtown Waukesha in droves driving prices unexpectedly sky high?

I think this conversation could prove useful to out of state investors as well. Like I said above, in Milwaukee the difference a few blocks can make are, or can be pretty significant.

Anyway, love to hear what you all think.

Post: Milwaukee economy - boom or bust?

Darren LiedtkePosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 5

Interesting. Earlier today I made this post using the mobile app which is a bit more clunky to navigate. I wasn't able to find a sub forum specific to Milwaukee. Perhaps I'll try and copy, paste, repost it here. Love to hear what the more experienced in the group have to say. @Shawn Ackerman it sounds like you know the area well with insight to possible spill over into Harambe. I mentioned that as well. Maybe you guys could hop over and share your insight.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/488385-growth-and-appreciation-of-specific-milwaukee-neighborhoods

Funny, made this post and found my way to this podcast latter in the day. Really impressed with what's in these podcasts. https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/7-making-appraisals-work-for-you-with-ryan-lundquist/id594419649?i=1000384124209&mt=2

Post: The process of Appraising would be appreciated :)

Darren LiedtkePosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 5
I was about to share this in a different discussion. Didn't read through all the responses to see if it's been mentioned but I'm currently listening to this. Happened to see this on my way elsewhere. Maybe it'll help. https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/7-making-appraisals-work-for-you-with-ryan-lundquist/id594419649?i=1000384124209&mt=2

Post: Complete noob from Milwaukee, WI.

Darren LiedtkePosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 5
Michael Henry and now for my second every question, what's the A: to your Q:?