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All Forum Posts by: Dante Moore

Dante Moore has started 4 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Ozzy Sirimsi:
Originally posted by @Dante Moore:

Seems like almost everyone is in agreement with this practice.  I guess in addition to real estate I should start a permit business where I charge $1500.00 per permit.  Contact me and I'll do this all day for you.  

There are  businesses around doing just that actually :D))))

I know and I just started a new one today.  Its called "All Day Permits".  Our slogan - We guarantee we won't finish the work!

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

Seems like almost everyone is in agreement with this practice.  I guess in addition to real estate I should start a permit business where I charge $1500.00 per permit.  Contact me and I'll do this all day for you.  

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

The work was done 2 years before you bought the house . You have no relationship with this electrician , he didnt work for you . There could be  many reasons why it wasnt finaled , maybe the GC didnt pay him , who knows .  The $500 plus the permit fee is normal , why should he work for free . It takes time to fill out the paperwork , and time is money .  

Now what would concern me is if the electrical permit wasnt  closed out , what other work was done and not closed out . Typically you dont get a use and occupancy certificate until everything is inspected and closed out . 

$ 500 is reasonable , its his license on the line 

What does it matter if the GC didn't pay him?  That's not my issue.  He should have taken that up with the GC in 2018.  I shouldn't be responsible for paying for his past problems.  There isn't any paperwork in Baltimore City its all online.  I could actually fill it out in less than 2 minutes but specifically only on electrical permits I'm unable to. How would his license be on the line to close out his own work? 

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Dante Moore:
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Will Fraser:

This is common among snakes.

 Snakes? So should the electrician work for free?

No actual work needs to be done is this situation other than pulling the permit

That is work. Its time, its liability, its knowledge of how to pull the permit.  People dont work for free.

And you dont have to hire him to pull the permit. You can pull the permit yourself. You can hire someone different to pull your permit.  When I need to get a full set of permits, I pay a permit expediator in the $3,000 range just to pull permits. 

Unfortunately you can't pull an electrical permit yourself in Baltimore City.  You have to have a licensed contractor registered in Baltimore city to do it.  I can see you paying $3000.00 for a full gut rehab in DC but if a single contractor charged you that same $3000.00 again 2 years later for pulling a $30.00 permit he didn't close out originally then what would be your thoughts be then?

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Ozzy Sirimsi:
Originally posted by @Dante Moore:

Is it customary for an electrician to charge a fee for pulling permit plus the cost of the permit?  

 I was sent a code violation for work that wasn’t completed 2 years prior to me purchasing the property. I called the original electrician and he stated he would renew the permit and have the property inspected. Now he says he can’t renew the original permit and to create a new permit he charges $500.00 to pull the new permit plus the cost of the permit. Is this a common practice amongst contractors? No work has to be done in this case. This is just closing out some bureaucratic nonsense that Baltimore City, Maryland has created.

1- It is common practice everywhere I think, unless you hire them to do work. I would not pull permit for free if I were an electrician.

2- I am not really sure why you call it bureaucratic nonsense, if permit pulled and never approved, it is is it common practice as well.

I can tell you "FOR SURE" that this is not common practice everywhere.  No one is asking him to do any work for free.  But I think charging $500.00 for a $50.00 dollar permit is excessive.  The permit was approved in 2018.  He completed the electrical work in 2018 but he didn't close out the permit in 2018.  

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Will Fraser:
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Will Fraser:

This is common among snakes.

 Snakes? So should the electrician work for free?

Absolutley not!  However, the key question here is why is the owner responsible for the cost of pulling the permit for the electrician who should have finaled it out the first time?  This re-work cost seems like it should be eaten by the contractor, but contractors understand well the situation that homeowners are in here and can easily create a nuanced "pay for this knee-cap insurance or you might find your knee-caps busted up" scenario.

I may be misunderstanding the situation with the electrician, but if this is the same contractor that didn't do it right the first time, then ^^ holds 

Will you are understanding the situation exactly right.  The electrician did not close out the permit in 2018.  I purchased the property in 2020.  The permit follows the property.  I looked him up and contacted him and now he wants $500.00 plus the cost of the permit for closing out the permit he didn't close in 2018.  The work has already been completed.  Its just Baltimore City paperwork nonsense.  

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Nick C.:

I think most people like to get paid for work they do. 

No actual work needs to be done here other than pulling the permit.   He didn't complete the work in the first place by not closing out the permit.

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Will Fraser:

This is common among snakes.

 Snakes? So should the electrician work for free?

No actual work needs to be done is this situation other than pulling the permit

Post: Contractors charging fees for pulling permits

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

Is it customary for an electrician to charge a fee for pulling permit plus the cost of the permit?  

 I was sent a code violation for work that wasn’t completed 2 years prior to me purchasing the property. I called the original electrician and he stated he would renew the permit and have the property inspected. Now he says he can’t renew the original permit and to create a new permit he charges $500.00 to pull the new permit plus the cost of the permit. Is this a common practice amongst contractors? No work has to be done in this case. This is just closing out some bureaucratic nonsense that Baltimore City, Maryland has created.

Post: COVID-19 Temporary Rent Support Landlord Fact Sheet - Baltimore

Dante MoorePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Washington, DC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

If the tenants have to apply and also make contributions or the entire grant is null and void how is this helping the owners?

COVID-19 Temporary Rent Support Landlord Fact Sheet
https://dhcd.baltimorecity.gov/sites/default/files/dhcd/attachments/COVID-19%20Temporary%20Rent%20Support%20Landlord%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

COVID-19 Temporary Rent Support Informational Sheet for you to share with your tenants
https://dhcd.baltimorecity.gov/sites/default/files/dhcd/attachments/Baltimore%20City%20COVID-19%20TEMPORARY%20RENT%20SUPPORT%20Fact%20Sheet%20FINAL_1.pdf