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All Forum Posts by: Dan ODonnell

Dan ODonnell has started 3 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: First House Flip With Father-In-Law

Dan ODonnellPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1

Hopefully the title of this post has drawn a few of you in to help me with some serious questions here. I sure do need it. Lets starts with the layout of the situation  as it isn't your average investment scenario. Please take everything I say in to consideration when answering my questions, thank you. 

Okay I will be investing in a house at the end of this month with my father-in-law. The house is a cheap rehab property that needs a lot of work. My father-in-law will be purchasing the property cash (about 40,000) through his LLC. I will be paying for every cost we put into the house. Everything from supplies, labor, contractors, permit fees etc. The cost of the rehab is my financial responsibility which we estimate to be equivalent to his investment (40,000). Understand we both will be putting in an equal amount of time, effort, and labor. Though he has more experience with rehabbing this is not something you need to factor in to your answers as it isn't something that will influence or affect our agreement financially or at all. We trust each other and are on the same page with every aspect of this house. I am here looking for experienced help as this is our first time investing together and we want to avoid any possible future turmoil as we are family. We would like to do this by making sure we are both comfortable with our partnership legally.

A few more details before asking my questions. Understand that I have spent the last few years working for him rehabbing propertys. I have always been paid cash meaning all of my investment money is also cash. I store this money in a safe as I have no legal job on paper as I file no w2 or anything of the sort. You can see why a partnership with my father-in-law is perfect for my first house flip. Okay, now for your help.

How should we go about this legally to protect the both of us? Should we both be on the deed? If so can I be on the deed as an individual and he as an LLC? Or should I form my own LLC/S-Corp to be added to the deed as an equal entity? I am told we most likely want a Tennants In Common agreement where we equally share 50 percent and all of our individual terms will be written into a separate legal contract. We both want to sell the property as soon as it is finished. We would like to each get back our initial investment and split the profit. Is TIC a good idea for our situation? If so should it be done as 2 LLCs for the best tax benefits for the two of us?

Please give me your honest opinion and experiences input as it will be greatly appreciates. Hopefully I explained things properly and you take the situation as a whole into  consideration when answering.

Post: Need opinions on investment

Dan ODonnellPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1

Thank you to everyone that has responded you have all put this into perspective for me. I realize now that not only will I be gaining experience but working just as much as him will increase our total profit or at the very least allow us to finish the project faster and move onto another. I am meeting with him tomorrow to discuss everything. 

I have made the decision to move forward with the project with a more hard working attitude. I do have one final question for you all. As he has been doing this for a long time, he has an employee who works with him. This employee will be helping us on the project as it wouldnt be right to let him go because he is including me in this project. Plus it would help us finish and sell faster. Since I would theoretically be a 1/5th investor, this employee would be 1/5th mine as his pay is calculated into the total cost of our investment. My question is my Uncle tends to send him on personal errands throughout the day, which has no benefit for me but is still technically coming from my pay. I dont want to nitpick but I also dont want to let this be a regualr thing. Why would I partially pay an employee to do my uncles/partners personal errands?

Post: Investing in a flip, help!

Dan ODonnellPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1

Hey there everybody I am hoping some of you can help me out with your knowledge. I have been saving up money to invest into a property with my uncle who buys and flips condos and houses. We are at a disagreement that may hinder this from ever happening, which is not good for me. 

Say the total cost to pick up a **** condo and rehab it from start to finish is 50,000. 40,000 is his and 10,000 is mine. I put in 1/5th of the investment and should see 1/5th of the profit. Therefore I believe I should do 1/5th of the total work. If he puts in 40 hours a week of work on the condo I would put in 10 hours of work a week, because that would make 50 hours of total work being done, 10 hours being my fair share. He believes I should be doing just as much work as him. I believe that is wrong, unfair and not how an investment works. Please let me know your input.

Post: Need opinions on investment

Dan ODonnellPosted
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1

Hey there everybody I am hoping some of you can help me out with your knowledge. I have been saving up money to invest into a property with my uncle who buys and flips condos and houses. We are at a disagreement that may hinder this from ever happening, which is not good for me. 

Say the total cost to pick up a **** condo and rehab it from start to finish is 50,000. 40,000 is his and 10,000 is mine. I put in 1/5th of the investment and should see 1/5th of the profit. Therefore I believe I should do 1/5th of the total work. If he puts in 40 hours a week of work on the condo I would put in 10 hours of work a week, because that would make 50 hours of total work being done, 10 hours being my fair share. He believes I should be doing just as much work as him. I believe that is wrong, unfair and not how an investment works. Please let me know your input.