@Wendell De Guzman back in August we had a tv guru sweep through Chicago. They advertised relentlessly day and night. While I was not working in REI then, it caught a friend's eye. She "believed" every word they said and so signed up for the "free" seminar. She signed me up too because she knows that I traditionally had a strong interest in it. I protested but went because I was super hesitant to let them go by themselves.
At the "free" seminar they upsold the majority of the room for a 3 day seminar @ $200, 1 guest included. My friend bit on this, and asked me to go if she paid. I protested, she insisted. Of course I knew they were going to try to upsell more and couldn't let her go on her own.
During the three day seminar, they spent more time talking about upgrading to their "master program" than they did giving details to people about how to get started. Ex: They spent nearly a day teaching people how to structure their business for tax purposes... though of course I knew this was useless because they weren't teaching people enough to actually make money in order to worry about taxes.
Their lesson on how to find cash buyers? The man literally spent 2 minutes on the topic - he told people to Google them. I spent the entire time thinking about this website and all of the free knowledge that anyone could tap into.
Long story short (or is too late for that?)... they eventually dropped the "mastery" program price on people. I believe it started at 19k and went up to 30k or so based on level support. No worries though because they would help people pay from their 401ks, credit cards, etc.
I remember sitting there for three days, watching the *packed* room around me... elderly, disabled, low income people... they all had an excited glow about them. They were going to achieve financial freedom, they were going to get what the speaker had, the boat on the lake. I knew better. I read between the well placed lines. Honestly, my heart broke a little for these people.
This experience reignited my passion for REI so in my opinion a lot of good came from it. Though I can't help but think about all those people in that room.
Anyway, to anyone out there who is considering a guru, please reconsider. There isn't one out there who can compare with the knowledge that can be found right here on BiggerPockets.
Danielle