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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Levine

Daniel Levine has started 22 posts and replied 67 times.

Post: cash out Refinancing problems with LLC

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

I am struggling to refinance my triplex because it is in an llc. I own the triplex out right and believe it will appraise around 230,000. It rents for 2275.00 and the NOI is around 1100.00 per month. I'm looking for 130,000k to get my original investment out and to continue investing. Banks are reluctant because of the llc. I'm considering a personal guaranty but would rather not go that way. Any suggestions?

I recently saw a post about someone purchasing the houses in their name then after the refinancing they changed the deed into a trust. That might work on my next investment. Does anyone have experience with this as well? 

Post: Help with a Commercial Cash Out

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

Hi All,

I am trying to close on my first rental property. I have some concerns and could use your advice. The purchase price is 62,000. Rehab costs are 27,000. ARV is 130K. With some holding costs, closing costs, ect I will be all in around 100k. It is a triplex currently not rented. The anticipated NOI is $1,680.00. I have already talked to several banks and I found one that will lend me 75%LTV on a 10-1 Arm at 5%, with no balloon payments amortized over 20 years.

My plan was to use a HELOC I have on my personal residence to fund the purchase price and rehab costs get the house fixed up, rented, then do a cash out. My concern is that they won't give me the loan when we are all said and done and I will have my cash tied up in this house.

After that long winded approach I am looking for advice on what banks look for when it comes to personal finances, credit score, cap rate, collateral ect. I am currently in the process of closing on another house a duplex as the loan application is being reviewed. Will that effect my ability to get a second loan. My concern is that they we say my debt to credit is no good. PS my personal credit score is around 790. Any thoughts.

Post: Help looking at multi family deal

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

Hi all, I am struggling with the analysis on this one. I am looking at purchasing 3 multi families from the same owner. The only way the deal will work is if I purchase all 3. My biggest concern is that two of the properties (church st and Center st) are located in an area that may never see any appreciation, and there is no easy exit strategy. Multi families are not desirable and only investors will purchase them from me. I am afraid that leaves me with few options for exiting quickly if needed. However from a cash flow perspective they are very good. I will try and lay it out below so you can give me your feed back. Thanks in advance.

Foordmore Rd house: Triplex only one unit is completed 2 others need finish work

Purchase Price$60,000.00
Down Payment (25% Down)$15,000.00
Improvement Ratio (Value of Land subtracted from purchase price)82%
1st Loan$75,000.00
1st Interest Rate on Loan6.00%
1st Term of Loan20
2nd Loan Amount
2nd Interest Rate on Loan5.25%
2nd Term of Loan
Yrs of Depriciation27.5
Expected monthly Rental Income$3,200.00
Expected Annual Rental Income$38,400.00
Vacancy/Collection losses %10%
Property Tax$2,842.00
Insurance$2,400.00
Repairs/Maintenance (10% of Gross)$3,840.00
Electricity$1,200.00
Gas$-
Oil$-
Water/Sewer$-
Trash$-
Advertising$-
Management Fees (10% of Gross Income)$-
G&A$200.00
Annual Increase in income1.0%
Annual increase in Expenses3.0%
Annual Increase in property Value2.0%
investors Tax Bracket28.0%
Self Employment tax0.0%
Total Tax Rate28.0%
Immediate Cash Improvements$37,775.00
Total Cash Investments (Down payment + Rehab+Closing Costs)$55,875.00
Total Purchase Price (rehab+purchase price+closing costs)$100,875.00
Loan - initial Cash investment$19,125.00
Buying Cost %$3,100.00
Sales Cost %9.0%
Estimated Value After Capital improvement$100,000.00
Summary:1st Loan
Loan Amount$75,000.00
Interst Rate6.00%
Term of Loans20
Monthly Principal and interest$537.33
Yearly Principal and interest$6,447.91
Annual Operating IncomeYr 1
Gross Operating Income$38,400.00
Less Vacancy/Collection (10%)$3,840.00
Effective gross income$34,560.00
Annual Operating Expenses
Property Tax$2,842.00
Insurance$2,400.00
Repairs/Maintenance$3,840.00
Electricity$1,200.00
Gas$-
Oil$-
Water$-
Trash$-
Advertising$-
Mangement Fee$-
G&A$200.00
Net Operating Income$24,078.00
Market Value of Property$100,000.00
Capital Rate of Return (NOI/Market Valve)24.1%
Cash Flow
Net Operating Income$24,078.00
Yearly Principal and Interest$6,447.91
Cash flow before tax's$17,630.09
Monthly Cash Flow before taxes$1,469.17
Taxes
Net Operating Income$24,078.00
Annual interest$4,500.00
Annual Depreciation Improvement$1,789.09
Taxable Income$17,788.91
Income Tax Due$4,980.89
Cash Flow after Taxes$12,649.20
Monthly Cash Flow After Taxes$1,054.10
Cash on Cash23%

Center St House: duplex fully rented needs new roof and some minor plumbing work

Purchase Price$40,000.00
Down Payment (25% Down)$10,000.00
Improvement Ratio (Value of Land subtracted from purchase price)82%
1st Loan$45,000.00
1st Interest Rate on Loan6.00%
1st Term of Loan20
2nd Loan Amount
2nd Interest Rate on Loan0.00%
2nd Term of Loan0
Yrs. of Depreciation27.5
Expected monthly Rental Income$2,125.00
Expected Annual Rental Income$25,500.00
Vacancy/Collection losses %10%
Property Tax$2,500.00
Insurance$1,800.00
Repairs/Maintenance (10% of Gross)$2,550.00
Electricity$1,920.00
Gas$-
Oil$1,867.57
Water/Sewer$3,000.00
Trash$-
Advertising$-
Management Fees (10% of Gross Income)$-
G&A$300.00
Annual Increase in income2.0%
Annual increase in Expenses3.0%
Annual Increase in property Value0.0%
investors Tax Bracket28.0%
Self Employment tax0.0%
Total Tax Rate28.0%
Immediate Cash Improvements$16,060.00
Total Cash Investments (25% ARV + closing costs)$17,500.00
Total Purchase Price (Rehab+purchase price+closing costs)$58,560.00
Buying Cost %$2,500.00
Sales Cost %9.0%
Estimated Value After Capital improvement$60,000.00
Summary:LOAN PMT
Loan Amount$45,000.00
Interest Rate6.00%
Term of Loans20
Monthly Principal and interest$322.40
Yearly Principal and interest$3,868.75
Annual Operating IncomeYr. 1
Gross Operating Income$25,500.00
Less Vacancy/Collection (10%)$2,550.00
Effective gross income$22,950.00
Annual Operating Expenses
Property Tax$2,500.00
Insurance$1,800.00
Repairs/Maintenance$2,550.00
Electricity$1,920.00
Gas$-
Oil$1,867.57
Water$3,000.00
Trash$-
Advertising$-
Management Fee$-
G&A$300.00
Net Operating Income$9,012.43
Market Value of Property$60,000.00
Capital Rate of Return (NOI/Market Valve)15.0%
Cash Flow
Net Operating Income$9,012.43
Yearly Principal and Interest$3,868.75
Cash flow before tax's$5,143.68
Monthly Cash Flow before taxes$428.64
Taxes
Net Operating Income$9,012.43
Annual interest$2,700.00
Annual Depreciation Improvement$1,192.73
Taxable Income$5,119.70
Income Tax Due$1,433.52
Cash Flow after Taxes$3,710.16
Monthly Cash Flow After Taxes$309.18
Cash on Cash21%

Church St house: Unoccupied, needs total rehab but has 3 units:

Purchase Price$10,000.00
Down Payment (25% Down)$2,500.00
Improvement Ratio (Value of Land subtracted from purchase price)82%
1st Loan$45,000.00
1st Interest Rate on Loan6.00%
1st Term of Loan20
2nd Loan Amount
2nd Interest Rate on Loan0.00%
2nd Term of Loan0
Yrs. of Depreciation27.5
Expected monthly Rental Income$2,600.00
Expected Annual Rental Income$31,200.00
Vacancy/Collection losses %10%
Property Tax$2,800.00
Insurance$1,200.00
Repairs/Maintenance (10% of Gross)$3,120.00
Electricity$2,880.00
Gas$-
Oil$2,800.00
Water/Sewer$4,500.00
Trash$-
Advertising$-
Management Fees (10% of Gross Income)$-
G&A$300.00
Annual Increase in income2.0%
Annual increase in Expenses3.0%
Annual Increase in property Value0.0%
investors Tax Bracket28.0%
Self Employment tax0.0%
Total Tax Rate28.0%
Immediate Cash Improvements$41,200.00
Total Cash Investments (25% of ARV+closing costs)$16,600.00
Total Cost Purchase Price + Rehab + Closing Costs$52,800.00
Buying Cost %$1,600.00
Sales Cost %9.0%
Estimated Value After Capital improvement$60,000.00
Summary:LOAN PMT
Loan Amount$45,000.00
Interest Rate6.00%
Term of Loans20
Monthly Principal and interest$322.40
Yearly Principal and interest$3,868.75
Annual Operating IncomeYr. 1
Gross Operating Income$31,200.00
Less Vacancy/Collection (10%)$3,120.00
Effective gross income$28,080.00
Annual Operating Expenses
Property Tax$2,800.00
Insurance$1,200.00
Repairs/Maintenance$3,120.00
Electricity$2,880.00
Gas$-
Oil$2,800.00
Water$4,500.00
Trash$-
Advertising$-
Management Fee$-
G&A$300.00
Net Operating Income$10,480.00
Market Value of Property$60,000.00
Capital Rate of Return (NOI/Market Valve)17.5%
Cash Flow
Net Operating Income$10,480.00
Yearly Principal and Interest$3,868.75
Cash flow before tax's$6,611.25
Monthly Cash Flow before taxes$550.94
Taxes
Net Operating Income$10,480.00
Annual interest$2,700.00
Annual Depreciation Improvement$298.18
Taxable Income$7,481.82
Income Tax Due$2,094.91
Cash Flow after Taxes$4,516.34
Monthly Cash Flow After Taxes$376.36
Cash on Cash

40%

Post: Discount Rate

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

How do I determine a reasonable discount rate? Can I use the cap rate? I am trying to calculate the IRR on a few different investment options. Thanks.

Post: Using real estate to escape the rat race?

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

I know bootstrapping your first few deals is hard and people always want to save a penny upfront. However to speed the process up you may take the 9k and hire a contractor to finish your live and flip quickly so you can move onto your next deal.

As for quitting your job, no good things come with out sacrifice, patience, determination, and hard work. I want out of my job so bad, but by sticking it out I have much more money to invest and my time line is shrinking because of it. Wealth is not built overnight and because you have started at a young age you are ahead of most, but leverage your steady income to purchase more properties in less time. 

Post: Is 5.50% a good investor interest rate?

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

always shop around...

Post: Mastermind/Accountability Group

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

sound interesting. Send me a colleague request and let's see how it goes.

Post: Using real estate to escape the rat race?

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

save everything you can, by a duplex live in half rent out the other. Once you have your next down payment saved move out of the duplex and do it again. Also look at Cash out Refi, or heloc loans on your current properties equity. The rates are so low right now you can use that cash to purchase your next property. You are young and if you stay employee live below your means, save every penny and purchase properties properly you can get out of the 9-5. Maybe even before you hit 30.

Post: buy and hold with little chance of appreciation

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

My first goal is to build a cash flow portfolio, then I will look at appreciation positions. Thanks for your thoughts it helps validate what I am doing.

Post: buy and hold with little chance of appreciation

Daniel LevinePosted
  • Investor
  • Conifer, CO
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 11

would you purchase a house that can reliably produce a 500.00 cash flow if there was little chance for any meaningful appreciation? A 40k house with 4 units, section 8, rents for 2000 per month. After expenses including PITI, repairs, vacancies, and some saving for cap x, it cash flows 500.00 per month. Any thoughts?