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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 28 posts and replied 114 times.

Post: Looking to develop Multi-Family in South Florida (East)

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  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46

Hey guys,

I have no experience but after looking at all my options I have come to a conclusion that my best move is to buy land and develop multi-family apartment building (15-20 unit) 2 story somewhere between Miami Jupiter.

Budget for everything 3M

Done with cash + 6% line of credit

Looking for long term hold

I would love to hear any insight on what areas I should look at, ballpark of build price (hard costs and soft costs) and would love to network with anyone in the area on this.

Thanks

Post: Looking to develop apartment building - Miami/Fort Lauderdale/WPB

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  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46

Hey,

So after exploring all the different options I have decided that my best best is to develop a multi-family in these areas. Buy land and build - Upto 3 stories - upto 20 units. I would also consider buying a building and remodeling.

Budget up to 3m

Give me insight and would love to connect to developers or brokers who think they have deals that can fit

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Ray Hage:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Ray Hage:

Unfortunately a turnkey 7.5% cap doesn't really exist anymore. Nowadays be happy with 3-5%. You would have to buy a fixer upper and get it to that that 7.5% level. I would forget about Aventura and NMB. Best bet of those three would be Hollywood. Are you willing to buy a fixer upper duplex or bigger?


Hey Ray, thanks for the reply. I know these aren't products on the shelf, but I have definitely seen off market quadplexes in North Miami with a cap rate of 6-7.5%+ turnkey. 3-5% is what SFH are renting for in this area, I have been looking at the inventory for a while. In the end I'm looking for a good deal. I wouldn't purchase anything that is not break even on market rate to start. If I have to hold off a bit more for prices to cool, I will. I know a lot of home buyers are holding off now for NAR rules to come out, I also see the market cooling across the board.

Hey, you're correct on that. Your best best is roughly break even on most properties or maybe a small gain. I don't believe I have seen anything around 7% Cap rate in a while but I suppose it doesn't hurt to check again. Break even is certainly possible and I think it will become more profitable soon as more inventory stays on the market longer and interest rates come down. If anything the new NAR rules may negatively affect buyers. I am both an investor and realtor so I am seeing it from multiple sides. Frankly, I am hoping for continued cooling but I don't think it will go down a ton but we will see in the next couple of months.

Thanks for the advice! I don't believe it will go down a TON across the board, I think the corrections will be product specific as well - for example, I don't think the market has priced in how unaffordable it is to hold a condo in Miami and that market has bubbled in many areas - the prices today just don't make sense any more and I think there will be major cooling in the condo market, even though even at lower prices I will stay away from condos over 4 floors. SFH I believe will cool down a bit, the narrative of huge immigration and East Silicon Valley is kind of dying down. There will still be things rising, but opportunity will come with more motivated sellers. I think lower interest rates will get some actions in the market, and people who have been wanted to sell for 2-3 years will start considering a move.

What are your thoughts on that?

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Shawn Bhatti:
Quote from @Account Closed:

I'm new to REI currently looking to acquire multifamily properties in the North Miami Beach, Aventura, and Hollywood areas that meet the following criteria:

Price per Unit: Maximum $250,000 (4 PLEX MAX 1M)

Cap Rate: 7.5% or higher as-is not pro forma

Value-Add Potential: Properties that offer the opportunity to renovate, improve, and increase rents or overall property value.My focus is on underperforming properties with strong fundamentals that are located in these markets. I’m particularly interested in assets where strategic renovations and management improvements can significantly enhance cash flow and overall investment returns.

After doing a lot of research I believe deals will be starting to come in towards end of year and early next year. Would like to hear your thoughts as well.

Looking to network with people who have done this before, can give me insight or mentorship or just meet in the area for a coffee to discuss. I can bring money and financing, and I'm looking to be boots on the ground. 



 Hey Daniel,

That is great that you have defined your metrics, but as @Ray Hage stated, a turnkey 7.5% cap does not exist in Miami unless you are buying in the really rough parts. $250K a unit is also somewhat realistic in those submarkets, though not impossible.

Your best bet is a value-add strategy on something that has significant upside with a high growth submarket. Your goal should be to have performance cap rates at 7-8% on something with a market cap of 5-6%, which gives you a healthy 200 basis point spread from the going market rate. You'll have to connect with brokers who can help you source these type of deals. Good luck!


 Thanks for the insight. Can you be a bit more specific on submarkets I should be looking at in the area? How would you redefine my metrics?

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Ray Hage:

Unfortunately a turnkey 7.5% cap doesn't really exist anymore. Nowadays be happy with 3-5%. You would have to buy a fixer upper and get it to that that 7.5% level. I would forget about Aventura and NMB. Best bet of those three would be Hollywood. Are you willing to buy a fixer upper duplex or bigger?


Hey Ray, thanks for the reply. I know these aren't products on the shelf, but I have definitely seen off market quadplexes in North Miami with a cap rate of 6-7.5%+ turnkey. 3-5% is what SFH are renting for in this area, I have been looking at the inventory for a while. In the end I'm looking for a good deal. I wouldn't purchase anything that is not break even on market rate to start. If I have to hold off a bit more for prices to cool, I will. I know a lot of home buyers are holding off now for NAR rules to come out, I also see the market cooling across the board.

Post: Looking to start investing in North Miami / Aventura area

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  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46

I'm new to REI currently looking to acquire multifamily properties in the North Miami Beach, Aventura, and Hollywood areas that meet the following criteria:

Price per Unit: Maximum $250,000 (4 PLEX MAX 1M)

Cap Rate: 7.5% or higher as-is not pro forma

Value-Add Potential: Properties that offer the opportunity to renovate, improve, and increase rents or overall property value.My focus is on underperforming properties with strong fundamentals that are located in these markets. I’m particularly interested in assets where strategic renovations and management improvements can significantly enhance cash flow and overall investment returns.

After doing a lot of research I believe deals will be starting to come in towards end of year and early next year. Would like to hear your thoughts as well.

Looking to network with people who have done this before, can give me insight or mentorship or just meet in the area for a coffee to discuss. I can bring money and financing, and I'm looking to be boots on the ground. 



Post: Looking to network with flippers in Southeast Florida (Miami, Broward, Palm Beach)

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  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey,

I'm looking to start flipping houses in the area. Flip and sell or BRRR.


Would love to connect to: builders, developers, investors who work on SFH in these areas.


 What is it you bring to the table? So many say, " I WANT IN" OK, so why are we doing biz with you ? You have props, cash , crews ? 

 First of all I didn't ask to do business with you and didn't ask anyone for a favor. I said I want to network with people. Maybe once we actually speak/meet, we can discuss if there is beneficial ways to do things together. 


 I am NOT beating you up. PLEASE do not take it that way. I am trying to make you understand, nobody is going to speak with you without knowing what " you bring to the table, " what " value do you have? I have props, contractors PM and much more, what is it you bring. Again NOT attacking you. I hope you understand, 

Good luck 

BTW FL is overpriced and heading for a big correction, its already started, 

I appreciate the feedback. I can bring money and boots on the ground. Im eager to work hard full time on projects, can do multiple at a time. 

I believe there are already motivated sellers who are eager to sell at a good price, I also believe next year will be more opportunity.

 How can you bring boots on the ground you're in Spain? Also, I live in FL and will not touch anything UNLESS I can get it at 25- 30% LOWER than the ask, even then IMO its overpriced. My dear friend is one of the biggest players in Miami, and she told me, Bob do not touch S FL, stay in Cleveland 

Good luck 


 I am moving to Miami. And obviously like anywhere, it's all about finding the right deal. There are deals everywhere. 

Post: Looking to network with flippers in Southeast Florida (Miami, Broward, Palm Beach)

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  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey,

I'm looking to start flipping houses in the area. Flip and sell or BRRR.


Would love to connect to: builders, developers, investors who work on SFH in these areas.


 What is it you bring to the table? So many say, " I WANT IN" OK, so why are we doing biz with you ? You have props, cash , crews ? 

 First of all I didn't ask to do business with you and didn't ask anyone for a favor. I said I want to network with people. Maybe once we actually speak/meet, we can discuss if there is beneficial ways to do things together. 


 I am NOT beating you up. PLEASE do not take it that way. I am trying to make you understand, nobody is going to speak with you without knowing what " you bring to the table, " what " value do you have? I have props, contractors PM and much more, what is it you bring. Again NOT attacking you. I hope you understand, 

Good luck 

BTW FL is overpriced and heading for a big correction, its already started, 

I appreciate the feedback. I can bring money and boots on the ground. Im eager to work hard full time on projects, can do multiple at a time. 

I believe there are already motivated sellers who are eager to sell at a good price, I also believe next year will be more opportunity.

Post: Looking to network with flippers in Southeast Florida (Miami, Broward, Palm Beach)

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hey,

I'm looking to start flipping houses in the area. Flip and sell or BRRR.


Would love to connect to: builders, developers, investors who work on SFH in these areas.


 What is it you bring to the table? So many say, " I WANT IN" OK, so why are we doing biz with you ? You have props, cash , crews ? 

 First of all I didn't ask to do business with you and didn't ask anyone for a favor. I said I want to network with people. Maybe once we actually speak/meet, we can discuss if there is beneficial ways to do things together. 

Post: Looking to network with flippers in Southeast Florida (Miami, Broward, Palm Beach)

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Miami, FL
  • Posts 120
  • Votes 46

Hey,

I'm looking to start flipping houses in the area. Flip and sell or BRRR.


Would love to connect to: builders, developers, investors who work on SFH in these areas.