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All Forum Posts by: Daniel D.

Daniel D. has started 16 posts and replied 74 times.

Quote from @Eliott Elias:

If you're hesitant to do this someone else will. As an investor you want to make the most you can while being reasonable, it's tough but has to be done. 


 Understood, they know they have been paying $400 a month for 23 years, I think that should be enough. I believe many of them will stay because there aren't any apartments in the area that would be cheaper, even with me raising the rents, especially now. 

@Mark F.

Greg does have some points!

Yes im in North NJ. I own a decent amount of rental properties, this is is my first one that i purchased with rents this low.

@Richard F.

This is a very good analogy, thank you.

@Shawn Mcenteer

That is correct, i appreciate the comment.

Quote from @Greg M.:
Quote from @Daniel D.:
I'm sorry, but listen to yourself. Dear Tenant, I'm doubling-to-quintupling your rent, but you'll now have a grill to cook whatever food the food bank has for you this week. If the tenants valued a grill, courtyard, and shiny exterior that much, they'd have moved to a building with that years ago. They value cheap rent.

It's clear that you're having a difficult emotional time regarding this. That's fine and normal, but this is a business. There is no amount of renovation that will make this increase palatable to the tenants. Raising rents 10% or 15% and making improvements is one thing. Doubling rent and making improvements is another. 

And as for feeling bad about the older tenants, do you think they ever once had a conservation about if the landlord was doing OK financially and if they should be paying him more? They don't give a s**t about the landlord, you or the prior one, and wouldn't give you a dime to help you financially if you were in need. And that might sound super cold, but it's the truth and you know it. 

 Needed this :). Thanks, and i completely understand your point. 

Quote from @Becca F.:


@Daniel D.

Wow $450 and $750 are really low rents. You've been a nice landlord. 

That is something I've struggled with also. My tenants are getting a very reasonable rent for out-of-state (Midwest) SFH rental. My property manager advised me that if I raise the rent too much it will scare them away - they've had the same rent for 2 years in a row but I'm planning to raise it the summer of 2023 when their lease is up, not sure if it will be 5%, 7% or 10%. My property taxes increased significantly and didn't pass it onto my tenants. My current rent is in the range of other rental comps but rent is going up across the country.

I agree with the other comments. Talk to them so they get advance notice. And raise your rent each year a little. Good luck and keep us posted!

I purchased the building with these low rents. I am generous, but I would have never left it like this since 1999. After i get them up to market rents, i will do 2% increase every other year, depending on what is going on with the economy. I feel bad; some of these units are older couples that I know will be crippled when I give them the new rent. 
Quote from @Greg M.:
Quote from @Daniel D.:

Rent needs to be raised because it is under market. Market rent doesn't care about what numbers you need to hit to be profitable. 

The tenants know they are vastly underpaying. They're not stupid. They knew this day would come. They either can or can't afford the market rent. Bribing them with a renovation isn't going to make them feel better or suddenly allow them to afford it.  

The reality is that you're probably going to lose all 6 tenants. Tell them all the new rent and when they all reply they can't afford it, give them the end date of their lease. Be fair, give them 90+ days and make it extremely clear that they need to start looking today, not day 89, as there will be no extension. 


 I understand they know their day will come when they must pay market rent. Some of them have been paying $400 since 1999... If some of them could afford the new rent, I believe that a renovation of their unit would make them feel a bit better. We are also renovating the exterior and interior of the building and adding a courtyard for tenants to hang out with a grill. 

I believe 3 of them could pay the increased market rent, but 3 will most likely leave (hopefully) without any issues. 

Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Talk to them and give them notice. this is why it is important to increase rents regularly.  The tenants and landlords get used to doing it.

Rents are below market value, but you also say you want to do major renos (new kitchens, bathrooms and flooring).  Why do you need to do the major renos?  Is it because there are problems (eg tub is failing) or it is because they are outdated?   

Are the increased costs because of the renos? 

I understand I bought the building with these rents. They have not been raised at all since 1999. 

The increased rents are not because of the reno; the rents need to be raised so the property becomes profitable and cash flows. Because I'm increasing the rent drastically, I would like to offer the tenants a complete renovation of their unit, kitchen, bathroom, flooring, and paint. If they continue to stay and pay the new rent they at least get a brand-new renovated apartment. If they decide to leave, then I renovate it and rent it out anyways at market price. 

I appreciate the replies. 

Thanks
Quote from @Kim Meredith Hampton:

This is a problem I encounter all the time when myself or my investors are looking at a small multifamily; the current investor refuses or is lax in raising rents to avoid being the bad guy! In actuality, this helps no one. 

The current tenants have heart failure when “you have to” raise rents, refinance, sell etc… and need those rents up to market, but because you have been the nice guy, it gets you nowhere. OR the problem is passed on to the next guy!
This scenario has been ever so difficult these past twelve months while rents have almost doubled in most places. Do yourself and make some sort of rent increase each year to help keep you at least somewhat close to market rents


 Its interesting, so the previous owner before I took over the building a few days ago hasn't raised rents since 1999. The good thing there for me is I got to purchase the building at a reasonable price because the rents were so low. The bad thing is now I have to deal with doubling, tripling, or quadrupling them! 

Hey Everyone, 

I hope i put this in the correct category. 

I generally do not do yearly rent increases on my properties if the tenant is clean, pays on time, and is overall a good tenant. I might raise 2% every 2-3 years if my taxes/costs/insurance goes up but most of the time I'm generous. Currently, I'm in a little dilemma where I have to raise the rent drastically for my deal to work. I purchased a 6 Unit property in New Jersey. 3 Units are at $900/mo 2 units are at $450/mo and 1 unit is $750/mo. My current monthly income on the property is $4,350.00. It needs to be at $11-12,000. 

The units are all 3 bedrooms 1 bath, and all in good condition. The rents for that type of apartment are currently around $2250/month. I need to raise them to at least $1850-$1950. The tenants that are paying $900 should not have any issues, but the 2 tenants i have that are at 450 and the one at $750 are going to have a heart attack when they see the new leases. 

I really feel bad for them, some of them are older couples, but i don't have a choice.. Just putting this out there to see what you would do in this type of situation. 


I will also offer to renovate their apartment, new kitchen, bathroom, flooring, and a paint job. 
 
PS

The building is not rent-controlled. 

Thanks

Dan