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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Coblentz

Daniel Coblentz has started 2 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: Employee wants to invest

Daniel CoblentzPosted
  • Dover, DE
  • Posts 4
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Hello everyone. I have a question I haven't found a solid answer to. I have an employee (young guy) who has a few thousand he wants to start investing in properties we flip. Just wondering what would be recommended as far as an agreement detailing what he's putting in/getting in return etc. I primarily work with HML so I just want to see what you guys think about this scenario and how to make it work best. Thanks!

@Jonathan R McLaughlin Thank you very much for the feedback! 

capex seems WAY, WAY low. - What would you suggest this should look like? The properties are fairly new (3-5 years) so I wasn't banking on a lot of repairs for the first few years. 

Repair low - I am going to adjust this up a bit, thanks!

Turnover costs? - These are included in the 11% mentioned below. Unless you are thinking there are other things I should be thinking about other then vacancy, cleaning, minor repairs?

ongoing legal and accounting? Included in the numbers I put in the report

lease commissions? Included in the numbers I put in the report

Management costs seem high at 11% so you may have some of this baked in. I believe this 11% will come down but wanted to leave it there for now to "assume the worst".

Not sure how you are going to get a 30 year amortization on the main note? You'll need to structure this as a commercial loan so 25 is max and 20 more likely. Reset on rate every 5 years and/or 10 year balloon. FHLB 5 year rate is 3.08+2.25 spread (YMMV but it will be similar method of computing rate) so at least 5.4% I'd bake in 6 to be safe as these can take a while to close. - The current owner is offering a 30 year amortization with 10 year balloon on the balance after the 600k down. Are you saying he isn't allowed to do it that way and we will be forced to do it as you mentioned above? 

loan fees--call it 12K - 

Closing costs will be a lot more than 3K--you need an appraisal at least at 1500 and maybe more, you will need the partnership agreement drafted (welcome to lawyer land!), environmental phase I and maybe phase II, company filing blah blah. Figure 15k-20K You will want your own inspection during due diligence thats another 1200 or so.

Does the 25K you put in the repair costs really yield 200K in immediate value increase? I'm skeptical, what is the plan? Should've been more clear on this. I estimate 25k in upgrades (probably a little higher then needed) but the deal, if it happens, will also include 16 acres of land currently worth $200k. That is the increase I put on this. 

"Find investors to put in the first 600K"--thats a pretty big raise: and where is your money? I have been working on getting investors for some time, and continue to add to my network so I feel pretty confident that the investors I have already spoken to will buy into the right deal. Which is why I am here :-) Side note* My profile says I just signed up but I've actually had an account here at BP since 2016 so I've been doing a lot of research. My money is tied up in my Construction company so the goal is to use my contacts money for the DP and sign the note myself. Still working on all the details but that is the plan. 

Are the taxes current or based on the new purchase price?--I've been whacked by making that "should have been obvious" mistake. - Noted! I will adjust accordingly.

Trying to help, not be negative. Run the numbers again, maybe, with these assumptions and see what you get. - I certainly appreciate the feedback! This is why I have come to love BP!! 

@Arun Iyengar Thanks for your feedback! I am still investigating a few of these items but I will answer what I know.

1. What is the age of the property? Still waiting to hear for sure on this one

2. For older properties, your repairs are going to be higher - I typically use up to $500 per unit per year if I don't have actuals. I have the financials for the past 3 years so I was basing it on these numbers but I will adjust to see how that looks. 
3. You are missing reserves for any other major repairs - typically around $200 per unit per year. Thanks! I will adjust accordingly.
4. Is payroll covered in management for your on site help? Yes. I believe I can get these numbers to come way down but I wanted to base it on what is in place at the moment. 
5. How about expenses for water, sewer, landscaping etc. - I should've noted that the utilities were all included in the electric budget I included in the report.
6. How about outside contract services, legal fees, permit fees etc? - These are included in the 11% I figured for the management fee.

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*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Hi everyone. I just started using the BP Calculators in the last week and I plugged a few of the deals in that I found. I ran this one and the results I am seeing make me wonder if this is a good deal or if I am missing something. 

This is a portfolio of 46 units. My thought was to find investor(s) to put in the first $600k and then the owner is financing the remainder at 5% with 30 year amm and a 10 year balloon. 

What do you guys think? Thanks for any input you have!